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Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by 0xbadcafebee on Thursday October 13, 2022 @11:37AM (#33192461)
> for the post-capitalist world

There needs to be a word that means "I almost thought what you were proposing sounded reasonable, until you said that last thing, and now I've lost all confidence."

Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by throwaway0x7E6 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @11:56AM (#33192758)
it's a dogwhistle for likeminded folx
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by uoaei on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:31PM (#33193288)
Capitalism is not just "the existence of money and markets". You can still have money and markets without capitalism.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by dmonitor on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:37PM (#33193365)
Capitalism is when businesses do things I don't like, and the more they do those things the more capitalist it is.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by Mikeb85 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:41PM (#33193434)
> You can still have money and markets without capitalism

Money yes markets ish. A pillar of capitalism is the private ownership of capital, without private ownership many markets no longer exist (talking the economic definition of 'market').

Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by uoaei on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:43PM (#33193449)
"Some markets become obsolete when you remove capitalism" is not the same as "markets are only a thing under capitalism".

The real estate market would probably look much different and may even dissolve entirely if you forbid private ownership of real estate capital. I don't think this is a groundbreaking insight, I'm just clarifying for those who are careless about their use of words.

Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by Mikeb85 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @12:46PM (#33193501)
Yes but there's also people who think capitalism = things they don't like and don't bother to think about what the alternative truly looks like.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by uoaei on Thursday October 13, 2022 @03:34PM (#33195495)
Straw men are not coming for your privately-owned home any time soon, friend.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by tkk23 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @02:16PM (#33194526)
Capitalism can also mean that politics shouldn't intervene when monopolies dominate markets. Then markets may also disappear in capitalism.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by uoaei on Friday October 14, 2022 @12:16PM (#33205500)
That's not what capitalism means. That's corporatism, if anything, assuming (as a sensible default) that corporations are the ones holding monopolies.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by throw10920 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:20PM (#33193927)
This is technically true in the abstract, but the people who use phrases like "post-capitalist" usually have a slightly different meaning in mind than what you described.
Re:Bonfire – working to build safer, more open federated too... by pvg on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:18PM (#33193901)
Don't know if there is such a word but there's definitely an HN guideline about not-writing shallow reaction comments about such triggers.