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Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by MrVandemar on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @08:48PM (#33185809)
15th iPhone?

I'm 50 and I'm still on my 1st Android phone (which is a piece of crap, but I have an environmental responsibility to use it as long as possible and it still does perfectly good phone things like SMS and voice and DCSS). I've owned maybe four mobile phones in my whole life.

I guess you're creating employment. See: https://www.who.int/teams/environment-climate-change-and-hea...

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by stjohnswarts on Wednesday October 12, 2022 @11:16PM (#33186735)
Most people use their phone for far more than SMS and "phoning" these days. You are an anomaly these days. That's neither good nor bad, it just is.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by pjmlp on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:51AM (#33187711)
Most people in Europe only replace their phones when they die, get stolen, or lost.

Other than a few lucky ones, we aren't big fans of contracts, replacing phones every two years, we enjoy our pre-paid variants, and only replacing them when it actually is required.

Even when we use it for more than just SMS and calls.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by ricardobayes on Thursday October 13, 2022 @03:45AM (#33188348)
Still happily using a Nokia which outlasted several iPhones (all of them had terrible microphones in my experience).
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by lxgr on Thursday October 13, 2022 @09:26AM (#33190645)
Is this based on your personal observations or can you back that up with any meaningful statistic?

I know both people that get the latest iPhone every year, and people still on a Nokia 3310(-equivalent), but the latter are in the vast minority in my circle of friends, also in Europe.

Personally, I've been upgrading every 2-3 years (not on a contract), and the phone was never broken.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by Sjeiti on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:37AM (#33187629)
I'm on my fifth smartphone (since 2009). But I've always used Android. It could be that iOS users are more inclined to replace perfectly working hardware.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by lostlogin on Thursday October 13, 2022 @05:25AM (#33188936)
Not all of us.

Gigantic phones are off putting. Every few years Apple tries making a mini and that’s the time to buy.

I’m fairly tall and have size appropriate hands (I think). I struggle to reach the top corners of my 12 mini. It’s very irritating.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by conductr on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:10AM (#33187492)
Agree GP is an anomaly and will say 15 could be an exaggeration a bit. I don’t know really but iPhone has been around a long time now and people seem to replace typically every 1-2 years.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by pjmlp on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:53AM (#33187716)
Not in most European or African countries, majority is on pre-paid, and phones only get replaced when there is an actual reason, not that two years have gone by.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by formerly_proven on Thursday October 13, 2022 @04:48AM (#33188714)
~80 % market share for contracts (post-paid) in Germany: https://www.statista.com/topics/7772/mobile-communications-i...
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by yourusername on Thursday October 13, 2022 @05:41AM (#33189030)
I'm on a post paid contract but i haven't had a phone subsidy in a long time. If you want a "free" iphone/android you can lease the phone (effectively it's a personal loan paid back over 2 years).
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by pjmlp on Thursday October 13, 2022 @05:13AM (#33188860)
I said Europe, not Germany.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by account42 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @06:02AM (#33189162)
~75%

And post-paid mobile contracts don't mean that the phone is paid for by the contract.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by distances on Thursday October 13, 2022 @07:24AM (#33189596)
Like the others say, I too have a post-paid without a phone. I personally don't know anyone with a bundled phone, because why would you do that? I pay 8€ per month and change the phone whenever I want.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by 2000UltraDeluxe on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:57AM (#33187742)
15th phone in total, would be fairly average for someone who has had mobile phones for 30 years. I suspect that's what the GP meant. Smartphone adoption is still not anywhere universal and many, many, are still on their first smart phone since a few years back.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by bearmode on Thursday October 13, 2022 @05:06AM (#33188816)
He specifically said 15th iphone. iphones have been around for 15 years.
Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by conductr on Friday October 14, 2022 @01:22AM (#33199935)
Yeah that was me, and I am talking iPhone. Don't try to overanalyze the "15". There's nothing scientific about it I just made it up and put the tilde in front. Didn't realize it would be the focus of such debate. It could be 10 or 20. Most people I know were early adopters and have replaced every 1-2 years and have also probably broken a couple along the way requiring early replacement. I'm also not claiming my observation is representative of anything other than that, I'm sure it wouldn't match some larger dataset. It's biased by a ton of factors. I was trying to point out 2 things;

1) we've used iphone's since the beginning and are pretty loyal, would likely never consider non iPhone

2) we don't tend to switch apps for "inclusivity" as the original comment parent stated. We blatantly exclude people that are not on the Apple product ecosystem by being rather inflexible to even try the universe of platform agnostic options (WhatsApp, etc).

This is my experience in the US. Basically, we're acting like the teenagers except in a not so mean and judgemental way.

Re:87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone... by throw827474737 on Thursday October 13, 2022 @01:12AM (#33187499)
I do, and I am still on my second...