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Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by kzrdude on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:36PM (#32973045)
The old SAS Survival Handbook (by John Wiseman) contains the advice that if you feel any “tingle” in a thunderstorm, get on the ground, preferably hitting the ground with your hands/arms first. I wonder how much it’s based on anything that helps in real life.

(Stretching out arms sounds strange, don’t you want to minimize your reach of contact points with the ground, considering how many V/m there will be if lightning strikes close to you?)

Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by dmckeon on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:25PM (#32973634)
The US CDC suggests crouching, among many other suggestions: https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/features/lightning-safety/index.htm...
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by mywacaday on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:47PM (#32975283)
I got my hands on that book as a approx 10 year old. My friends and I had great fun building the deadfall tripwires around our tree house although with bags if wet leaves rather than tree trunks.
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by kzrdude on Monday September 26, 2022 @11:40AM (#32984534)
It is a great book. I loved it in childhood and know many of the chapters
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by qbasic_forever on Sunday September 25, 2022 @12:55PM (#32973274)
Yeah the ground strike effect for lightning is a serious risk. In wilderness first aid classes I've taken that cover lightning strikes the best advice if in a group is to have people spread out as much as possible. If everyone bunches together then one person being hit will just radiate out to everyone else with nearly as much energy. Better to be spread out so at least someone might survive and deal with the victims. Not a good situation though which is why the best protection from lightning is to avoid it entirely!
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by bbarnett on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:18PM (#32973558)
which is why the best protection from lightning is to avoid it entirely

We're a little coddled now though, I'd say.

Just being on the farm, 20 acres back (a few miles), and a surprise storm... where do you go? Under the tress, surely not!

Laying flat may be the only hope.

People used to be outside more, I'd say. I wonder what the historical vs modern wrt population strike numbers look like?

Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by xani_ on Sunday September 25, 2022 @04:13PM (#32975589)
>The old SAS Survival Handbook (by John Wiseman) contains the advice that if you feel any “tingle” in a thunderstorm, get on the ground, preferably hitting the ground with your hands/arms first. I wonder how much it’s based on anything that helps in real life.

Well, hitting the ground with your face first would be unpleasant

> (Stretching out arms sounds strange, don’t you want to minimize your reach of contact points with the ground, considering how many V/m there will be if lightning strikes close to you?)

I'm guessing it's to basically try to be as flat as possible, covering head would make you be overall higher off the ground

Most of the advice I've seen pretty much goes by "just try to be least conductive target around"

Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by amelius on Sunday September 25, 2022 @04:25PM (#32975753)
> Most of the advice I've seen pretty much goes by "just try to be least conductive target around"

But also try to be not around a slightly worse conductor, like a tree. A slightly better conductor is also not a good idea (getting 1/2 of the current is still deadly).

Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by xani_ on Sunday September 25, 2022 @05:46PM (#32976654)
Would tree be bad conductor tho ? It's more conductive than air, much taller than average human, and probably similar in conductivity when wet
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by dredmorbius on Tuesday September 27, 2022 @08:49PM (#33003052)
Trees where lightning is prevalent are often wet, the water itself often containing dissolved salts (which enhance conductivity).

Current tends to flow around and over things, rather than through them. That is, on the surface. Which means that the conductivity of dry wood ("through") matters far less than the conductivity of slightly mineralised water ("over" or "around").

Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by mmastrac on Sunday September 25, 2022 @01:32PM (#32973737)
Ideally you want to avoid current across the heart -- you're probably not going to have a great time being a conductor, but ensuring the easiest path is through your legs/arms gives you the best chance of making it out alive.
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by the_arun on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:16PM (#32974948)
Does having a pacemaker increases the risk for the heart in these situations?
Re:How to survive a lightning strike (2014) by mwint on Sunday September 25, 2022 @03:40PM (#32975208)
I’d guess the biggest risk increase is from having a heart that needs a pacemaker in the first place.

The pacemaker itself probably isn’t designed for lightning strikes, but it probably is designed to survive hits from a defibrillator. I’d put money on a pacemaker/ICD surviving a lightning strike.