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Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by svnpenn on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:58PM (#32915415)
Ive used "When taskbar is full" for years. "never combine" seems to be an anti-pattern, as you'd be forced to scroll your taskbar with too many windows.

First, would you really want that? and second, why do you have so many windows open, that this is becoming a problem? if you hide search, I think you can get about 8 non-collapsed windows. do you really need more than that?

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by wvenable on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:36PM (#32915989)
If I have 2 file explorer windows open, why wouldn't I want to 2 icons so I can quickly switch between them? Combining only makes sense if you have an unmanageable number of Windows open.

But then I'm probably the ultimate outlier: I have my Win10 taskbar configured Win95 style -- showing the full window title and one tab per window. I do not know why the "dock" style of desktop window navigation is so popular.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by svnpenn on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:57PM (#32916957)
"When taskbar is full" is the same as "never combine", unless the taskbar is full
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by wvenable on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:05PM (#32917067)
When is it full? With never combine the buttons just get smaller. I guess it eventually hits a limit and scrolls but I've not experienced that.
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by cygx on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:22PM (#32915799)
I think you can get about 8 non-collapsed windows.

My taskbar fits 28 windows before scrolling happens. It gets a bit unwieldy after the first 12, and eventually, titles will no longer be displayed.

do you really need more than that?

Yes.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by rishav_sharan on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:28PM (#32915894)
People using a feature differently from how you would, doesn't makes it an anti pattern.

> First, would you really want that? Yep. I was forced to buy StartAllBack, just to be able to use "Never Combine" in Windows 11

> and second, why do you have so many windows open, that this is becoming a problem? if you hide search, I think you can get about 8 non-collapsed windows. do you really need more than that?

Because people have different ways of working. I have 32 gb RAM in my laptop and at any time I have dozens of windows open. I have dozens of browser tabs open at the same time as well. When I am at work, I open each mail that I want to look at later, in a window by double clicking it in Outlook. And then later on, resolving each one by one.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by antisthenes on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @01:59PM (#32915458)
Ah yes, the typical "you must be using this new awful feature wrong" response.

Why don't you give the OP some respect and don't assume they don't know what they want?

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by tom_ on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @04:20PM (#32917247)
1, Slack; 2, Teams; 3, Outlook; 4, Perforce; 5, Visual Studio; 6, Emacs; 7, Command prompt; 8, Firefox...

Ran out already before even getting to File Locator Pro and File Explorer! - and this is the stuff I know I'll almost certainly be having open pretty much every day. I'll be running additional programs on top of these.

I usually have more than 1 command prompt, and more than 1 Firefox window.

Additionally, Visual Studio isn't decorative. I will actually be using it to work on a program of some kind. And when I run that program under the debugger, the program will need space in the task bar for its icon too.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by thesuperbigfrog on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:25PM (#32915846)
>> "never combine" seems to be an anti-pattern

For me anything other than "Never combine" is an anti-pattern. Every application instance should have its own taskbar button that I can identify by looking at it.

>> if you hide search, I think you can get about 8 non-collapsed windows. do you really need more than that?

I have a huge ultra-wide monitor. I can easily get 20+ non-collapsed window buttons on the taskbar. Combined taskbar window buttons waste my time and impair my productivity.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by munk-a on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:29PM (#32915899)
I don't think either approach is an anti-pattern - different use cases will be useful for different users. I've found combining application instances to be quite useful since I use a lot of applications with no internal instance switching (PuTTY is the biggest offender here) but to each their own. This setting being a setting just felt like a good idea.
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by thesuperbigfrog on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:33PM (#32915945)
>> I don't think either approach is an anti-pattern - different use cases will be useful for different users.

That's why I prefaced it with 'for me'.

Other people can use works best for them. I know what works best for me.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by munk-a on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @05:05PM (#32917783)
In my personal lexicon "anti-pattern" is a pretty universal term - X isn't an anti-pattern for Alice but not Bob - it's either an anti-pattern for everyone or it isn't an anti-pattern.

So I think in my comment above I mostly just automatically omitted the "for me" when reading your original remark.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by thesuperbigfrog on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @05:29PM (#32918058)
>> In my personal lexicon "anti-pattern" is a pretty universal term - X isn't an anti-pattern for Alice but not Bob - it's either an anti-pattern for everyone or it isn't an anti-pattern.

I agree.

svnpenn's comment characterized "Never combine" as an anti-pattern, but it is my preferred configuration.

Perhaps it would have been more accurate to just say that "Never combine" is not an anti-pattern since many users prefer it for various reasons.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by gsich on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:02PM (#32915510)
No scrolling
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by neals on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:00PM (#32915464)
yes, many more
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by bslqn on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:03PM (#32915520)
I don’t want to have to click twice to bring up a window from the taskbar, ever. It’s not that hard to understand.
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by sjsdaiuasgdia on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:43PM (#32916082)
I hover over a group to get the previews of the windows in that group, then click the one I want. Just one click in the whole process, though I do understand if you see the half second or so wait after hovering as bad as having to click.
Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by thesuperbigfrog on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @03:54PM (#32916929)
>> I hover over a group to get the previews of the windows in that group, then click the one I want.

I prefer "Never combine" so that I don't have to spend any time hovering and waiting.

Re:Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update by wilsonnb3 on Tuesday September 20, 2022 @02:40PM (#32916056)
To be pedantic, it doesn't require two clicks. You can hover and then click on the one you want.