So Adobe screwed their users by making them switch to a subscription model like Figma has used from day one?

What? Figma is free for personal use.

I have no problem paying a subscription fee for a corporate account. Having to fork over $100 a month to adobe for personal use is ridiculous. Problem with adobe there was never a free tier

If you're not the customer you're the product. Figma just cashed you out.

This argument doesn't always work. Big tech like Google will definitely harvest my data and do actually-nefarious things with it that actually affect me, since I use their services, but what is Figma going to do? Sell my data to advertisers? Advertisers already know about me, but they can't reach me anyway, so that data is useless to them except in aggregation.

I'm a product to a lot of companies but not all of them are worth being concerned about.

Ok cool. Still better than forking over 100s of dollars a month for CC

If you're paying hundreds, you're getting ripped off. The full CC suite is $55/month

But that's not the point.

The point is that we dislike Adobe and we don't want to deal with them in any context.

So feels not reals?

No the point is that adobe has shitty business practices and their software is also bloated and crappy and has done fuck all to make my life as a designer easier in the past decade.

The fact that overwhelming amount of designers switched over to figma in the past few years, proves that how people feel about adobe is very real.

Personally I am never thrilled to switch software and endure initial period of relearning how to do my job in a new tool unless there are measurable advantages.

I ve used adobe products since the age of 12 and not having to install their crappy software on any computer since 2019 has been liberating af

If you want to frame it that way.

We have learned experience being hurt by Adobe. Ignoring that would be silly.

Until you need a team, Figma is free.

For now.

This is HN, where developers diss companies’ decisions while they would do the same. It’s actually kinda hypocritical tbh.

It’s not hypocritical. Most of the comments I saw in the initial thread clearly supported both angles. “Wow that sucks, but huge congrats to the team!”

Looks to me like most people acknowledge that it’s great and natural for the company but just feel distraught by the implication for users.

Adobe changed/is going to change a lot for the better under Scott Belsky.

Any supporting articles that would ease minds?