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Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by NavinF on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @01:53AM (#32746852)
Can't relate. I've spent a lot of time aggressively tuning my YouTube and TikTok recommendations using the "not interested" button and now 90% of the videos on my homepage are 10/10 bangers.

Try opening YouTube in incognito and watching the first 10 videos. You'll cringe so hard that your body will be twisted up like a pretzel.

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by michaelgrafl on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:44AM (#32747721)
Opening YouTube in incognito is a really depressing experience for me. Reminds me that I'm maybe not as in touch with the general population as I'd like to believe, which is a plus.

It also stokes my misanthropy, which is why I don't do it much.

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by me_me_me on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @10:35AM (#32751181)
Its depressing to say the least. Its bunch of click-bait outrage and sport trivia. And the god awful 'celebrities' fucking around and somehow have massive following.

Its a lens on gen pop, but i dont like looking through it.

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by synu on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @01:56AM (#32746884)
How did you get YouTube to stop recommending videos you’ve already seen?
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by NavinF on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:38AM (#32747224)
This is gonna sound pretty silly, but: You gotta scroll down!

The top recommendations on YouTube are often extremely "safe" in the sense that you'll feel bad about marking them as "not interested" because you already like the video and the uploader. This is likely a bug in their reward function, but if you skip the safe recommendations you'll start seeing more more intelligent recs such as videos that have the same presentation style as the ones you like except they were uploaded by unknown creators with 1k subs. Over time the algorithm will learn that you only like to rewatch certain kinds of videos (music videos in my case) and that you like to be surprised.

Note that refreshing the page doesn't help. It will keep giving you new equally-safe recs until you scroll at least 1 page down and force it to generate new recs.

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by bondarchuk on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:22AM (#32747530)
>if you skip the safe recommendations you'll start seeing more more intelligent recs such as videos that have the same presentation style as the ones you like except they were uploaded by unknown creators with 1k subs. Over time the algorithm will learn that you only like to rewatch certain kinds of videos (music videos in my case) and that you like to be surprised.

Why oh why can't you just tell youtube that this is what you want, instead of some elaborate algorithm training dance?

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by NavinF on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:35AM (#32747639)
Building an easily tunable recommendation algorithm has been on my bucket list for over a decade. I'm not aware of any serious implementations. I'm sure if you look at the issue trackers for any alternative client for YouTube, you'll find people who strive towards the same goal.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by synu on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:22AM (#32748777)
Interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I’m going to give it a shot.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by bobsmooth on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:18AM (#32747503)
Don't watch them. I hate that YT recommends videos I've already seen but I also click on them more often than not.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by synu on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @06:22AM (#32748774)
I don’t watch them again, but it keeps recommending them.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:26AM (#32747117)
Maybe frustration with YouTube somehow drives more engagement, so you'll go looking for new content and stay longer -- like how shops rearrange things to expose you to other goods and so increase sales.

Perhaps you need to change human behaviour so that most people don't rewatch things? (Speculation! Personally I prefer fresh content too.)

Maybe YouTube have found that rewatching items drives people to annoyance with the adverts and gets more revenue?

Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by ntlx on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:12AM (#32746997)
Would love to know the answer to this as well.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by NavinF on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @03:04AM (#32747400)
I replied to GP.
Re:Before YouTube’s algorithm, there were ‘coolhunters’ by imiric on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @02:25AM (#32747105)
I have the same experience using Invidious, which just shows videos of all my subscriptions in the order they're posted, without using any of YouTube's recommendation algorithms. If I want to watch a video about a related topic, I'll just search for it.

And agree about the logged out view. It's not for me, but clearly has a huge audience.