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Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by sarchertech on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:09PM (#32732311)
For those who aren’t aware this is either satire or confusion on the OP’s part. There are no “gentle snow trolls” in the source material.

And there was nothing unnecessary about the fight scene. It’s unrealistic in the way that Legolas is unrealistic in Peter Jackson’s movies, but no worse.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tenpies on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:38PM (#32732537)
Troll scene aside, I am just bored that it seems Disney and Amazon Studios share the same writers when it comes to their strong female leads.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by astrange on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:06AM (#32732705)
Americans should, I think, not be allowed to write fantasy because none of them know fairy tales well enough, and worse, none of them are capable of dry humor. I assume if I watch this Rings of Power show it'll turn out to be written by Joss Whedon and everyone will constantly be quipping at each other and looking at the camera like on The Office.

I'll watch it if the writers room turns out to be staffed by weird old British Catholics though.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by wyclif on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @12:32AM (#32732869)
none of them are capable of dry humor

Bill Murray, Nick Offerman, and Steven Wright would all like a word.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Retric on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:07AM (#32733097)
We must have very different definitions of dry humor if those three are your examples.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by martinclayton on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:05AM (#32733895)
Steven Wright is dry, at least his powdered water joke is.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Retric on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @09:27AM (#32736799)
If we are talking individual jokes sure. He is the closest of the three and keeps the dead face unlike Nick Offerman who’s brow is integral to the comedy.

However he regularly expresses emotions through gestures and subtle body language, so yes it’s close but not there over a full routine.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by raspberry1337 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:02AM (#32733874)
Now this was a good chuckle
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Fiahil on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:07AM (#32733104)
> Americans should, I think, not be allowed to write fantasy

Aye! They write Fantasy like action movies.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by shaklee3 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:03AM (#32733075)
the British office lasted one season, while the American version lasted 9. Gervais also wrote much of the American one.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by onion2k on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:23AM (#32733196)
There were two seasons of the British version of the Office, and a Christmas special.

I don't think you should take the longevity of each as a mark of popularity or quality. The British version wasn't cancelled - Gervais and Marchant ended it deliberately with a proper conclusion. I don't think anyone doubts more British series would have been commissioned if they'd wanted to carry on.

When Gervais was asked if he likes the American version his response was "Yes of course. It's made me very rich." That's his dry sense of humor, but I suspect it also hints at why they stopped doing the UK version and started on the US version instead.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by adamors on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:35AM (#32733689)
Gervais has writing credit for literally one episode of the American Office https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch?role=nm0315041&job_type=wri...

And it has been said multiple times by people working on the American version that besides the inital setup, Gervais and Merchant had very little if any input and everything was done by the American wtiters/show runners.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by 7sigma on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:39AM (#32733729)
They should take a cue from the Expanse. Like the wire, they just made the characters epic, male or female (having amazing actresses helped)
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by ekianjo on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:14PM (#32732345)
And there is no gratuitous killing of trolls in the source material either.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by sarchertech on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:20PM (#32732397)
It wasn’t gratuitous in the context of the show. They were attacked by said troll.

The troll attack advanced the plot by serving as a catalyst for Galadriel’s troops deserting.

Unless you’re saying that just having a fight scene with a troll was gratuitous? But the books have plenty of battle scenes with trolls as well.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by coffee_beqn on Monday September 05, 2022 @11:22PM (#32732421)
I mean it’s a fantasy show. They wanted to show that Galadriel was a elite fighter and they succeeded
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Retric on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @01:05AM (#32733091)
They showed plot armor not an elite fighter.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by tsimionescu on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @02:41AM (#32733738)
Isn't that exactly what you would expect from one of the oldest elves, clad in some of the finest armor created by the ancient elf smiths? Tolkien's elves are superhuman entities, magical and supernaturally agile, strong, tireless and so on.

They are not elite fighters in the sense of, say, just being a Navy SEAL.

If you're looking at Rings of Power and expecting a being such as Galadriel to break a sweat fighting something like a troll, you have a strange set of expectations.

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by raspberry1337 on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @03:03AM (#32733888)
>Tolkien's elves are superhuman entities, magical and supernaturally agile, strong, tireless and so on.

Which is why it's s suprising that a frost troll took out 3 of them in one lumpy throw of some packed ice

Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by midoridensha on Wednesday September 07, 2022 @04:28AM (#32748049)
Notice that there were no dead elves at the end of that scene, just some mad elves that refused to follow their leader any more. They got kicked around by the troll, but afterwards they were ok. Elves are tough.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by sarchertech on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @05:07PM (#32743223)
The regular fall to orc arrows. Their durability is highly variable in the books.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by Retric on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @09:38AM (#32736955)
No, I would expect risk and effort minimization through perfection of strategy and technique. When 1 v 1 combat looks more dangerous than a farmer killing a goat it breaks my suspension of disbelief.
Re:Amazon putting a three-day pause on reviews for Rings of ... by sarchertech on Tuesday September 06, 2022 @04:58PM (#32743122)
>I would expect risk and effort minimization through perfection of strategy and technique

I don't think that's consistent with the fights in the books.

I mean Fingolfin physically fought a 40+ foot tall Morgoth in the Silmarillion. He was jumping around between huge pits that Morgoth's mace made when Morgoth tried to hit him. Fingolfin had a sword, while Morgoth held a mace that was bigger than Fingolfin, and yet Fingolfin was able to survive being beaten to the ground by said mace.

I don't think there's anyway to depict fights on screen like that without looking a bit silly.

If you start trying to realistically depict what it would look like to fight giant humanoids, you'd end up with something that is probably very interesting to people like you and myself, but that the majority of people would find boring. Plus that's not how the source material approached combat scenes.