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Re:Random Google Street View by schoen on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:47PM (#32671289)
There is also a game (now a family of games) built around this concept, where you get a Street View location without seeing the map, and you have to figure out where you are based on what you can see.

https://geoguessr.com/

Re:Random Google Street View by cantaloupe on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:52PM (#32671325)
There are now geoguessr competitions, and the high level players learn to identify locations in seconds based on tiny details like utility pole designs. It’s incredible.

Here’s an example: https://youtu.be/Uvqc1_xl2h4

Re:Random Google Street View by sharkweek on Thursday September 01, 2022 @01:27AM (#32672347)
I started playing Geoguessr’s ranked duels a few months ago and if not for a family vacation to break me free, might have fully disappeared into the game.

Caught myself studying online guides to bollard color and shape by region, what road stripe patterns correspond with each country, the different shapes of the lettering of most major languages… etc.

It’s such a fun way to spend 15-30 minutes a day, and it’s quite easy to see improvement in your skill in a short time.

That being said, watching the pros can be a little discouraging because they’ll even have things like the ridge lines of mountain ranges memorized, it’s insane to watch.

Re:Random Google Street View by dncornholio on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:10AM (#32673896)
Watching the pros made me realize they are just playing a game of memory.
Re:Random Google Street View by solumunus on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:34AM (#32674071)
How else could one play the game except using memory of places, cultures, etc? Seems like the whole thing is memory and could only ever be memory...
Re:Random Google Street View by cs02rm0 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:30AM (#32677822)
I guess every piece of knowledge could be considered memory.

But I can see a difference between memorising the stripes on street furniture or which countries streetview has visited for the sake of playing such games and just knowing which direction the sun is to narrow down the hemisphere or having a little understanding of how the environment varies with latitude.

Re:Random Google Street View by schoen on Thursday September 01, 2022 @03:30PM (#32681798)
I particularly don't like the Geoguessr metas that are specific to Google Street View. In particular, expert Geoguessr players know about (1) which generation of imagery Google captured in which places (the quality gets higher over time), (2) which imaging artifacts are present from panorama stitching problems in which places (like "rifts" in the sky), (3) which kinds of cars were used where and what parts of the car you can see when you look down, and (4) which countries had a specific vehicle escort the Street View car.

I think the usefulness of these things is kind of sad because they are specifically about Google Street View rather than about the outside world. I would contrast that with something like utility poles, because while that's not exactly core cultural knowledge about a society, it's actually something that you would see for yourself if you were there. And it could potentially be interesting and useful in its own right. (For example, one might consider why particular countries adopted particular utility pole styles. Maybe they were faced with local insects or weather that damaged poles of a certain style, so they had to switch to a different kind?)

Re:Random Google Street View by deelly on Friday September 02, 2022 @04:51AM (#32688332)
I suppose this happens in every competition. Its absolutely logical to try to game a system for a win.
Re:Random Google Street View by dvlsg on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:47AM (#32677045)
You can usually look around for street signs or shop fronts that include useful information (a website that ends in .nz for example).
Re:Random Google Street View by elcomet on Thursday September 01, 2022 @11:07AM (#32677421)
That's still memory, knowing that .nz is associated to new zeland?

This game is mostly memory + deduction (you see a few signs which when combined, result in only one possible location)

Re:Random Google Street View by spookthesunset on Thursday September 01, 2022 @12:29PM (#32678837)
And a very good memory at that!! I’m pretty sure jeopardy is the same way.

How do the high scoring players of jeopardy do it? Do the memorize a book of facts or something? The mind boggles.

Re:Random Google Street View by pwython on Thursday September 01, 2022 @09:21AM (#32675868)
Even if they've personally visited every country in the world, wouldn't they still be playing a game of memory too?
Re:Random Google Street View by ming123098 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @01:01AM (#32672199)
I like City Guesser more. No account required and you have to guess the location from a video which I find a bit easier and more enjoyable.

https://virtualvacation.us/

Re:Random Google Street View by groffee on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:00AM (#32674252)
I could spend all day on that site! Those kinds of videos are going to be an invaluable archive 100 years from now!
Re:Random Google Street View by LeftHandPath on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:12PM (#32682414)
I spent the following hour and a half after clicking on this on that site. Wow.

Being able to "experience" other locations, even in that shallow of a way, is really, really amazing.

Re:Random Google Street View by alphabetting on Thursday September 01, 2022 @01:30AM (#32672363)
thanks for sharing. that is really well done. monument guesser was great.
Re:Random Google Street View by wyclif on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @10:53PM (#32671333)
Trevor Rainbolt's skill at geoguessr is phenomenal: https://youtu.be/0p5Eb4OSZCs
Re:Random Google Street View by darylteo on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:59AM (#32673818)
> Vivaldi intensifies
Re:Random Google Street View by skc on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:32AM (#32674047)
I've always assumed these people (I see them come across my social media timelines periodically) are just trolling people because I've seen them guess where a place is based on nothing other than a patch of grass in less than 3 seconds.

I still don't see how that is even remotely possible.

Re:Random Google Street View by kobbe on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:35AM (#32674468)
Almost all of those videos are real. You can in fact quite easily identify most areas down to a few 100s of km just from the surrounding nature. It takes some practice but it is for example very easy to learn which continent the nature is in. The videos you see on social media is also of course the best case out of 100s of games.
Re:Random Google Street View by mynameisvlad on Thursday September 01, 2022 @05:37AM (#32674093)
Obviously “patch of grass” is going to be harder, but after a while you get good at noticing small details like the style of houses, the way the roads are marked, etc.

I’m by no means a pro but I went through a hyperfixation on Geoguessr YouTube videos so I started picking up the general architectural styles of Nordic houses for instance. Or the specific markings you can only find in Russia.

There’s also image artifacts which are only present in specific collection attempts. Most images from IIRC Ghana have a specific artifact and can easily narrow it down. There’s a few of these out there.

Re:Random Google Street View by spyder on Thursday September 01, 2022 @02:21PM (#32680749)
If the site is just using google api in the html source it's probably not too hard to extract the location from the javascript. A quick search shows there are browser scripts for that. But they could protect against by calling the streetview api from their server (if google allows that) and only serving the images to the user.
Re:Random Google Street View by apocalyptic0n3 on Thursday September 01, 2022 @10:38AM (#32676922)
I play quite a bit, although I'm much more casual and generally just focus on the US. I find myself identifying areas based on foliage pretty frequently. They can be super localized and after you play a few hundred or thousand maps, you just start naturally associating different areas with different plants. I'm nowhere near good enough to guess in 3 seconds based off anything, but after a few months I find I can generally spawn, not move the camera, and correctly guess I'm in 1 of like 4 states. Depending on what's visible, I can often identify the correct state immediately, although pinpointing takes a lot more time. It's just like any game: repetition and practice makes perfect.
Re:Random Google Street View by dewey on Thursday September 01, 2022 @06:06AM (#32674294)
I spent many hours watching GeoWizard tracking down locations:

https://www.youtube.com/c/GeoWizard/playlists

Re:Random Google Street View by tmnvix on Thursday September 01, 2022 @04:28AM (#32673591)
A lot of fun. https://geotastic.net/ is also a good alternative.
Re:Random Google Street View by ivanjermakov on Saturday September 03, 2022 @09:24AM (#32701681)
+1

Geotastic is the best alternative I know about.