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Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by thenerdhead on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:26AM (#32649480)
Whether or not you like Joe Rogan, I think there’s something significant about how far they’ve come with so little.

They don’t have many employees. They don’t take much time to produce shows. They don’t have countless assistants to schedule logistics. They keep their operating costs modest. And yet their shows reach a mass audience.

I respect how a small team has kept onto their autonomy and continues to grow and be in the headlines constantly depending on what was discussed. They just push content into the world and the world reacts to it.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by StrictDabbler on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:22PM (#32653983)
Truly, it is incredible that a sitcom star from the peak of network television and who hosted one of the first major reality television gameshows and the early years of the MMA rise has managed to parlay that tiny bit of fame into a podcast listenership of 12 million.

If only the rest of us could do so much with so little.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by choxi on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:36PM (#32654135)
I think the overpolished and analytics-driven media personalities left a vacuum for an authentic voice to fill. Someone would have filled it, and it happened to be Joe. It’s not like someone sufficiently motivated could repeat his success trajectory, part of it is always being in the right place at the right time too.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by xwowsersx on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:58PM (#32654963)
His prior fame undoubtedly helped him get off the ground, but if you think the show's success coasts purely on his earlier fame, I'm afraid to say this is a story you're telling yourself, seemingly in part, to make yourself feel better.

A podcast doesn't stay relevant with a large and loyal audience unless it's actually good. To pretend like JRE is a continued success purely because he was on TV before 1) ignores the countless podcasts started by people far less famous than Rogan was when he started which have failed to take off and 2) sounds like a cynical, resentful thing you tell yourself feel better along the lines of "well, if I came from where Rogan did, I'd be just as successful."

Whatever you want to say about the reasons anyone tuned in to begin with, it's transparently unfair (and betrays your own "issues") to not offer a balanced perspective which includes the need to acknowledge the obvious which is that Rogan's success just might be _also_ due to the fact that he is a good interviewer, that he has good guests on his show, that he's able to spark interesting conversations, etc.

The idea that his TV stint and MMA fame makes a listenership of 12M an automatic thing is just laughable.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by StrictDabbler on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:33PM (#32655414)
I was replying to a comment about *how small Rogan's staff is.*

You appear to have missed that context and have launched into a passionate defense of his talent, behavior and personality. As a bonus you've dipped into the ad hominem well at least twice.

If you think it's impressive that somebody very famous can make a podcast with only three employees, ok. Go ahead and be impressed.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by guhidalg on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:09PM (#32655101)
Unreal this amount of effort is spent defending Joe Rogan.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by tharne on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:24PM (#32655302)
Unreal this amount of hate toward a man who does not claim to be an authority on anything and happens to have a popular podcast.

Don't like Rogan? Don't listen to him and leave it at that.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by NeverFade on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:32PM (#32655392)
1. Attack a person incessantly.

2. Some people come to his defense.

3. "Why is there so much effort to defend this person?!"

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by oswald42 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @06:10PM (#32655815)
Yes, let’s ignore he became a successful star first. That was obviously just handed to him. Success breeds success only if you have some actual ability. Otherwise he’d be a one hit wonder. At one point he really only did have as much as anyone on HN, and probably even less.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by tharne on Wednesday August 31, 2022 @03:42PM (#32667311)
Don't go ruining a perfectly good internet argument with the facts /s
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by threeseed on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:51AM (#32649745)
I don't think it's particularly impressive.

He's not that different to a top-tier Youtuber or influencer of which there are hundreds who have managed to build successful content businesses with very small staff.

They are all just standing on the shoulders of the platforms and content creation tools which allows them to affordably produce and distribute high quality content to billions. Something which has never previously been possible.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by adammarples on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @10:05AM (#32650615)
I remember Joe podcasting back when there were like 3 podcasts available. He came out shortly after the iphone, the first platform he was available on was probably iTunes. He's been doing it a long time where many have failed.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by zimpenfish on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:00PM (#32653766)
> I remember Joe podcasting back when there were like 3 podcasts available.

According to [1], JRE launched in late 2009. According to [2], podcasts took off spectacularly in 2004 and by 2005, every man and his dog had a podcast (paraphrasing, obvs.) Whilst he has been doing it a long time, he was relatively late to the party.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joe_Rogan_Experience [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_podcasting#Timeline

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by tomjakubowski on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:39PM (#32654158)
I have no evidence to back it, but it felt to me like there was a podcasting boom around 2004-2006, and then I stopped hearing about them until a revival circa 2014, when everyone and their mother was listening to Serial.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by SyneRyder on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:22PM (#32655273)
Podcasting was around long before the iPhone. There's a reason it's called Pod casting.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by prepend on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:51PM (#32654887)
> I don't think it's particularly impressive.

It’s the highest listened to podcast for many years now. You don’t find that impressive?

I’m not a Howard Stern fan, but I’m impressed by the reach of his satellite show.

Do you not find podcasts impressing at all? Reaching millions of people for hours each week is very rare.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by nomel on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:47PM (#32654225)
I don't think this is right. The podcast and YouTube space is incredibly competitive. Everyone has the same shoulders to stand on.

Nobody watches top tier YouTubers, rather than others YouTubers, because of the platform. The platform is absolutely saturated with others, making identical content. It's the same with podcasts. The same guests are almost always making rounds to all the other podcasts, yet people prefer Joe Rogan over all the other podcasts the guests are on. Why?

The top tier people have some mix of personality traits, physical traits, work ethics, or talents that separate them from everyone else. That ability to be so massively separated is what should be considered "impressive", since it's provably not trivial or common.

I’m always impressed by someone getting to number one, on their own merit, because I know the reasons are extensive rather than simple. Well, except for something like OnlyFans.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by towaway15463 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:36PM (#32654716)
Pretty shitty dig. You’d better get started on creating that universe if you ever want to claim credit for anything.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by StanislavPetrov on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:21PM (#32655255)
The same thing that attracts so many to his podcast is what drives so many away: his lack of a political agenda. Many people find it refreshing that Rogan can talk (mostly listen) to nearly anyone without pushing his (or anyone else's) agenda on them or acting as some sort of policeman to attack those with views that various groups of people don't like.

Unfortunately in today's environment, many people (most of the ones who don't like Rogan) think it is incumbent on everyone to be a wokescold. They think that having a conversation with someone somehow grants them legitimacy or "normalizes" their views, while intelligent people with coherent, well-thought out principles understand that legitimacy is not something that is granted through proxy.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by givemeethekeys on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @06:10PM (#32655810)
If by, "they", you mean the show, then the show's name is The Joe Rogan Experience. Joe Rogan is the host.

The team behind the team started small and have managed to stay small despite the massive audience. Very cool indeed.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by koheripbal on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:31AM (#32649530)
The real question is how he got such good guests in the beginning.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by notdarkyet on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @09:19AM (#32650033)
It should be pretty clear if you look at Joes career outside of the podcast. For 30 years he has been in the entertainment industry with stand up comedy, television (News Radio and Fear Factor), to announcing UFC fights.

He was one of the fist big podcasts and livestreamers before others started doing the same. Most of his initial (and repeat) guests are simply friends from these various industries.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by jjulius on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @02:41PM (#32653587)
He was already a celebrity before he started his podcast.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by hammock on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:56AM (#32649801)
Unless you consider Joey Diaz to be a “such good guest,” he didn’t
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by mattwilsonn888 on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @08:45AM (#32649672)
Reread what you responded to. I'm sure it is a large component.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by nomel on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:00PM (#32654374)
Another question being, since those same guests have been present on many other podcasts (most do rounds for promotions), why does his podcast seem to be preferred?
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by tharne on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @05:27PM (#32655344)
He let his guests talk without trying to put words in their mouths. He respects his guests and takes a sincere interest in them. In other words, he's the exact opposite of most people in the media.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by golemotron on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @02:58PM (#32653753)
> Whether or not you like Joe Rogan, I think there’s something significant about how far they’ve come with so little.

Joe identifies as a man.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by bioemerl on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:05PM (#32653819)
In addition to what some others are saying here, they is often used as a singular gender neutral pronoun and not a specific pronoun that excludes the others.

I use singular they all the time, especially online where people are accounts and not people.

Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by akomtu on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @09:35PM (#32657343)
Well, in the context of this conversation, "singular gender neutral pronoun" is one of the things that doesn't belong to JRE's show.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by eachro on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:01PM (#32653781)
they as in him + his assistant(s) that produce the show
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by ssizn on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @03:00PM (#32653772)
I think he means the entire team.
Re:Observations from our Joe Rogan Experience experience by bavila on Tuesday August 30, 2022 @04:12PM (#32654484)
The statement was clearly meant as a joke, albeit a flat and stale one.