The coming tsunami of fakery

Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by kerblang on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:37AM (#32595180)

This is ironic since the main article links to another (arguably more interesting) article that talks about achieving #1 posting status on HN with a GPT-3 posting:

https://liamp.substack.com/p/my-gpt-3-blog-got-26-thousand-v...

Then again I could be replying to a bot

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jjulius on Thursday August 25, 2022 @01:01PM (#32596603)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23894742

This is hilarious.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jallen_dot_dev on Thursday August 25, 2022 @05:56PM (#32600435)

Related: There's a GPT-3 bot on HN[1]. Somebody recently commented[2] that the bot was convincing, and a couple replies criticized them for calling it a bot (one citing ToS).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=Traubenfuchs

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32518220

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:14PM (#32600607)

Come on. That's a human LARPing as a bot. GPT-3 is good, but it doesn't write the comments you'll see on that account.

Even if you didn't know that, it should feel fishy when the "human" and the "bot" write with the same idiosyncrasies like nonstandard punctuation.

I just updated my profile. I'm a bot now, too.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jallen_dot_dev on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:27PM (#32600744)

Maybe. Doesn't change the silliness of people defending it without doing the least bit of investigation, which they would see by looking at the profile that the account claims to be a bot.

Edit: I replied before you edited your comment to point out the punctuation idiosyncrasies. Yeah I agree now, this guy must be LARPing as a bot.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:33PM (#32600801)

I actually think @tinus_hn, who cited the rules in your link, is right: the rule should still apply because it adds nothing to the discussion to debate the bothood of a user even if they claim so themself.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jallen_dot_dev on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:37PM (#32600849)

I think the guidelines are to encourage civility and healthy discussion. That is, to not dismiss an argument by calling the person a bot. But if the person claims to be a bot, I don't see how it can be a community violation to call a bot a bot.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 25, 2022 @06:40PM (#32600892)

True, I don't think it made sense to invoke the guideline in that context since the guideline surely exists so that you aren't dismissing a comment based on who you think wrote it.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by Pr0ject217 on Friday August 26, 2022 @10:35AM (#32608068)

Ouch. I do agree, though.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by CamelCaseName on Thursday August 25, 2022 @12:55PM (#32596525)

Wow. I'm deeply frustrated with the author of that article.

> there were a few commenters on hacker news who also guessed [that GPT-3 wrote the articles]. Funny enough, nobody took notice because the community downvoted the comments.

What a quick way to destroy the social fabric of this site.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by hombre_fatal on Thursday August 25, 2022 @01:35PM (#32597114)

I think you’re barking up the wrong tree. This is inevitable because it won’t be long before the likes of GPT-3 (and everything better) is an app you can run on your phone.

The solution isn’t to punish the one person you can catch because they admitted it but rather to evolve the platform/assumptions in a world where this is going to happen no matter what.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by Pr0ject217 on Friday August 26, 2022 @10:21AM (#32607907)

Haha, I'm not a bot.

Edit: I'll shamefully admit that I impulsively posted a comment to share my love for HN without actually reading the article...

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by velox_neb on Thursday August 25, 2022 @01:25PM (#32596973)

Funny, just the other day I was reflecting on how HN seems so lifeless and generic these days, so much of it just people throwing around predictable talking points, and wondered what percentage of the posters are bots.

There must be some bot commenters here, the idea of creating a GPT-3 hacker news poster is so obvious that a bunch of people would do it just for the lulz.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by int_19h on Thursday August 25, 2022 @09:56PM (#32602478)

I've yet to see a stable community in which talking points aren't predictable, once you've been a part of it for long enough.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by btilly on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:11AM (#32594725)

I'm pretty sure Stack Overflow also has pretty much all live content.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by celeritascelery on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:16AM (#32594810)

I wonder if you could use GitHub Copilot to generate fake answers for SO?

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jacooper on Thursday August 25, 2022 @12:35PM (#32596207)

But what would be the point? There is no SEO to game, no people to influence etc.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by etskinner on Thursday August 25, 2022 @12:39PM (#32596282)

There's plenty of influence plays there. If I worked for Cloud Provider X, I might nudge people toward using that cloud instead of a competitor. If I'm a developer of Software Y, I might say "Software Y makes this much easier" and boost sales.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by jacooper on Thursday August 25, 2022 @02:10PM (#32597667)

Maybe, but that would require an actually helpful answer, other than that no body is going to look or care about your answer.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by postsantum on Thursday August 25, 2022 @07:45PM (#32601516)

Quora is plagued with these "helpful" answers

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by doubled112 on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:19AM (#32594857)

Don't give them any ideas.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by optimalsolver on Thursday August 25, 2022 @08:12PM (#32601728)

Semi-related: Someone wrote a sort algorithm that searches StackOverflow for sorting functions and runs them until it returns the correct answer.

https://gkoberger.github.io/stacksort/

Inspired by:

http://xkcd.com/1185/

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by ROTMetro on Thursday August 25, 2022 @01:33PM (#32597092)

I've said this before but as someone who went to prison from 2016ish-2021, HN is the only recognizable part of the internet to me and the only place that doesn't feel toxic and corrosive. I went to Youtube for a month, and found myself posting awful toxic crap myself including here. I put work into training my Youtube algo and now it's ok, but OMG the default of what is wanted to feed me was soul crushing.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by miralgj on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:04AM (#32594617)

I wonder if there are AI generated posts on HN that fly under the radar. There probably aren't as many as social media platforms since there not enough money to be made by doing it.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by xipho on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:08AM (#32594687)

Perhaps RTFA, not doing so makes you sound like a bot (I'm not calling you one, that's against the rules).

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by 411111111111111 on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:58AM (#32595579)

It's kind of ironic, really. The better the quality of the community, the higher the payoff to organically push your agenda on it.

I think bots and astroturfing has been the normal for years now, they're just less intrusive on this forum, usually.

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Re:The coming tsunami of fakery by Kaibeezy on Thursday August 25, 2022 @11:05AM (#32594643)

I really enjoy posting sites that seem to meet this vague standard, and it's just plain fun when a discussion emerges.

Example deleted.

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