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Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by samatman on Friday August 12, 2022 @06:46AM (#32436647)
They can, in fact, safely return the rabbit to the stew pot.

They're food. Rabbits. People eat them.

It's not better for the rabbit to be turned loose to be mauled to death by a housecat or eaten by a coyote. A shelter is going to euthanize, wasting good meat.

This is squeamishness masquerading as morality.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by gambiting on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:11AM (#32437294)
That's not the point. I have literally nothing against eating rabbits - they are delicious in fact.

I do hover, object to lying. Like OP said - they(everyone in fact) have the right to make an informed choice. By omitting this information, people who are returning a rabbit aren't making an informed choice. It's a trick, a ruse, if money was involved I'd call it a fraud.

Nothing to do with squeamishness.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by conorcleary on Friday August 12, 2022 @08:37AM (#32437583)
They're returning the rabbits to the previous owners. There's no further expectation of duty to either party.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by dnadler on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:39AM (#32438463)
The situation implies that the person selling the rabbits as pets would attempt to rehome them or care for them as pets.

There's a difference between being technically correct, and being moral. While the language used is technically correct for the situation, omitting the information about where the rabbits end up is immoral.

Clearly OP understands that if the whole truth was told, they wouldn't be getting a free source of rabbit meat...

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by samatman on Friday August 12, 2022 @10:46AM (#32439452)
Is it dishonest to buy a rabbit and not mention that you're planning to eat/breed/keep it as a pet?

No of course not, it's none of the seller's business. If they say "hey we're vegan please don't eat our rabbits" that's a different matter, it would be at the very least polite to respect those wishes.

Why on Earth would returning a rabbit to a farm where they eat them be any different? In this case the possibility is perfectly clear.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by dnadler on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:41PM (#32441748)
I think the bit about it being a "farm where they eat them" is the key point.

If the person returning it knows that, then sure. The OP implied pretty heavily that they don't know the ultimate fate of the rabbits.

As far as these people know its "A farm where they sell breed and sell rabbits as pets", not a farm that raises them for meat.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by inglor_cz on Saturday August 13, 2022 @07:48AM (#32448993)
"it's none of the seller's business"

In this case, the parties are close relatives, so I would argue that their threshold of duty to disclose such facts is somewhat higher than in case of complete strangers.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by spelunker on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:23AM (#32439932)
I would hardly call it immoral. If the owners are curious about the ultimate fate of the rabbit, they could simply ask before returning.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by leaflets2 on Friday August 12, 2022 @03:29PM (#32442934)
I think it doesn't occur to them that the rabbit's new home is in the oven. They wouldn't think about asking
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by jeromegv on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:59AM (#32438754)
I think the expectation is that since they bought the rabbit there and the rabbit was happily living there, when they return it, they expect it to still live. They think they are returning the rabbit to its "natural" environment and will happily live on the farm.

So there is no legal duty or obligation, but morally, the expectation on both parties are definitely not the same. Otherwise they would tell them that they would cook them when they return them. The fact they are hiding this information shows that expectations are not aligned.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by scrumbledober on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:17PM (#32441425)
Yeah but it's a farm... it's not a rabbit rescue and pet store
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by slingnow on Friday August 12, 2022 @10:16AM (#32439013)
Did you miss the part where the sister says "that [if] they want to let the rabbit loose, they can return it for free"?

That's an outright lie, since they aren't letting the rabbit loose to live on the farm -- they're eating it.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by woojoo666 on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:36AM (#32448252)
what matters is not what we think. What matters is what the girl recovering the rabbits thinks. If she thinks that if she told the truth the rabbits wouldn't be returned to her, then by not saying anything, she is lying by omission.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by meken on Saturday August 20, 2022 @05:31PM (#32535289)
The part which seems relevant is if the parents (or a random person) had the information that the rabbit would be made into stew, then that would likely change their decision to return the rabbit.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by spywaregorilla on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:38PM (#32440950)
Are dogs food?
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by namecheapTA on Saturday August 13, 2022 @08:30AM (#32449264)
I was in Northern Vietnam in 2019, happily riding my rental scooter around.

I ride right past a dog on a rotisserie.

I stopped to talk to the guy and he showed me his sign that said Dog Meat. After learning the words for dog meat in Vietnamese, I saw the signs everywhere.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by kennend3 on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:24PM (#32441511)
I've had dogs as pets for decades. I don't see why people cant eat them if they want to. I wouldn't eat my dog because of emotional attachments, but that doesn't mean that others who don't have emotional ties cant eat them.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by spywaregorilla on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:38PM (#32441698)
But perhaps you can see why someone would be upset if you needed to pass your dog to someone else's care; and they ate them.
Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by samatman on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:08PM (#32441331)
Are pigs food to Muslims?

Is there a culture where eating rabbit is taboo?

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by spywaregorilla on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:37PM (#32441688)
You said

> They're food. Rabbits. People eat them.

Well people eat dogs and pigs so then by the same logic they are food.

Re:Goat Rental – Hire Goats by wszfahwbwbaha on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:01PM (#32441963)
What is with all your edgelord stuff with rabbits. You need to work out some of your issues