Wow. ..I'm really surprised by this comment..what do you mean by "farther away than ever" . I just recently started learning to code and I really want to go into machine learning ..does it mean there isn't any major innovation right now in the field ?

Modern ML/AI became a fully accepted, mature part of the "production software engineering world", it's a solid career choice, from everything that can be predicted right now. Existing, non-startup companies are using ML/AI to solve real problems and its buzzword powers are shrinking every day.

But regarding autonomous driving, there seems to be stagnation. We now got cars that can "autonomously drive in most conditions but required a driver at the wheel at all times" for many years now. Tesla FSD updates seem to be incremental at best. Is there any company left still planning 100% autonomous taxis that can get drunk people home? I don't think so. And that would be the fucking holy grail of the transportation business. There are about 18 million taxi drivers in the world and most of them would lose their job, saving customers and companies billions.

That's probably not what they meant.

What I interpreted it as was that the current iteration of machine learning will not be able to satisfactorily solve full self-driving cars.

> That's probably not what they meant.

It is, somewhat. The current generation of software and hardware was pushed to its limits by the smartest AI/ML engineers in the world and the best we got is Tesla FSD which is in no way ready to replace taxis and still needs someone at the wheel at all times.

100% self driving taxis for drunk night crawlers are not on the horizon anymore.

I don't know if Elon Musk's nonsense was involved - they had their own autonomous driving project in-house didn't they?

Have you forgetton the whole Google lawsuit against Uber? Anthony Levandowski. Uber’s self driving project is still no where near production ready.

What does that have to do with Musk? Musk never worked at Google and Tesla s self driving technology lacks key sensors compared to what Waymo and Uber were working with.

/u/failingknife, I cannot reply to you, but thanks for making only relevant comment on this entire thread.

You copy pasted something you were about to write on Reddit?

The person they were replying to was flagged, so you may not see it unless you set showdead in your profile

I can't see why it's relevant. We're talking about Uber's bet on self-driving cars and this person commented with an bitter, offtopic gripe about how they think HN commenters are losers.

I think you mis-read - I'm saying they did have a self-driving car project, not that they didn't. And yeah nobody has production ready self-driving tech, it wouldn't surprise me if they had canned it.

So the self driving talk was all a lie ?

I don't know which part you mean, so you might have to clarify. But I don't think they were lying about having a self-driving car program - as someone else mentioned there was a pretty famous lawsuit about this very topic. I don't really remember much about how far along they claimed to be, but it's definitely possible they exaggerated how successful their efforts were - so that could be construed as lying I guess? But it's a tough nut to crack, as evidenced by Tesla's ongoing FSD problems.

It was ... over-optimistic.

I would -suspect- that we'll get full self driving -eventually-, but which of the companies attempting it will succeed first and how many years from now I have no idea.

Oh you are right. I definitely mis-read your comment. Apologies.

Just forget about me naming him. What I really meant was simply the whole autonomous driving bubble that just had him as its figurehead.

Yes, they quite famously killed a person