What does that have to do with Musk? Musk never worked at Google and Tesla s self driving technology lacks key sensors compared to what Waymo and Uber were working with.

/u/failingknife, I cannot reply to you, but thanks for making only relevant comment on this entire thread.

You copy pasted something you were about to write on Reddit?

The person they were replying to was flagged, so you may not see it unless you set showdead in your profile

I can't see why it's relevant. We're talking about Uber's bet on self-driving cars and this person commented with an bitter, offtopic gripe about how they think HN commenters are losers.

I think you mis-read - I'm saying they did have a self-driving car project, not that they didn't. And yeah nobody has production ready self-driving tech, it wouldn't surprise me if they had canned it.

So the self driving talk was all a lie ?

I don't know which part you mean, so you might have to clarify. But I don't think they were lying about having a self-driving car program - as someone else mentioned there was a pretty famous lawsuit about this very topic. I don't really remember much about how far along they claimed to be, but it's definitely possible they exaggerated how successful their efforts were - so that could be construed as lying I guess? But it's a tough nut to crack, as evidenced by Tesla's ongoing FSD problems.

It was ... over-optimistic.

I would -suspect- that we'll get full self driving -eventually-, but which of the companies attempting it will succeed first and how many years from now I have no idea.

Oh you are right. I definitely mis-read your comment. Apologies.