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Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by say_it_as_it_is on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:49PM (#32090193)
Coincidentally had child porn on his machine.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by AustinDev on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:01PM (#32090291)
The go to ‘sprinkle some crack on em’ tool in the alphabet toolbox.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by bostonsre on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:10PM (#32090344)
He had state secrets on his machine.. why would they need to do this or what would they gain from doing this?
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by dredmorbius on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:20PM (#32090417)
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by brian_cunnie on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:42PM (#32090572)
IANAL, but I don't think they can introduce child pornography charge in the espionage trial--they severed the two trials, and the ex-CIA coder hasn't yet been convicted of child pornography (it's the later trial), so it doesn't fall under the "Prior Conviction" umbrella.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by dredmorbius on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:09PM (#32090780)
Fair point. There are other potential prosecutorial benefits.

There's still the court-of-public-opinion element. Such a charge might give allies / witnesses for the defence pause to come forward.

Facing multiple independent counts also increases pressure, costs, and distracts attention for the defendant against any one case. Given the defendant here is representing himself, that may be a major hurdle. (Last sentence here is a stealth edit FYI.)

Whether the CP charges are justified or strategic I really can't say. The practice of digging up additional dirt on defendants in specific instances is a venerable tradition however.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by hulitu on Thursday July 14, 2022 @05:24AM (#32093794)
It's a tradition at those 3 letter agencies. They know that some people love wistleblowers and they want to discredit them. Just look at wikipedia pages of those wistleblowers or spies.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:51PM (#32090649)
How would they know he had state secrets on his computer? And how could they convince a judge they knew he had those secrets without admitting to illegal activities themselves?
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by shreyshnaccount on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:51AM (#32093227)
he leaked them. he had to have them for him to leak them. if you're asking how they know he was the leak, idk
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 14, 2022 @04:38AM (#32093544)
>he had to have them for him to leak them

A smart leaker would then delete them and destroy any disk they touched.

Even if they knew he leaked them, there's no guarantee he would have them on his machine. Which would be another reason to ‘sprinkle some crack on em,' that way he would still be punished if he was prepared.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by hulitu on Thursday July 14, 2022 @05:26AM (#32093814)
> A smart leaker would then delete them and destroy any disk they touched.

And the prosecutors will put them back. Just like police inserts a small package in your backpocket when they arrest you.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 14, 2022 @05:32AM (#32093842)
>Which would be another reason to ‘sprinkle some crack on em,'
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by bostonsre on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:08PM (#32097868)
I would assume they would know by doing a standard legal investigation where they get a warrant from the judge and look. I don't know what evidence they gave in the warrant application in this case but usually they have to be more than a blind shot in the dark request.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Thursday July 14, 2022 @04:54PM (#32101320)
Thinking they ran an aboveboard investigation of the person they think leaked their surveillance tools is optimistic. Given what I've read about the CIA at that time plotting the assassination of Assange, I don't share your trust.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by jdmonty on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:12PM (#32090362)
Makes him look really scummy?
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by sedatk on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:20PM (#32090413)
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by sedatk on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:19PM (#32090407)
If there was such a tool, why wasn't it used for others like Chelsea Manning?
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by daenz on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:29PM (#32090468)
Not every leak and leaker is the same. If a tool/procedure like that existed, it would probably be used on people who could generate positive public perception of their actions.

Apparently the "vault 7" leak was centered around how devices were hacked to spy on private citizens and consumers. The public has a soft spot for people who leak things that expose direct invasions of privacy. Chelsea Manning on the other hand leaked documents that I don't believe would influence public opinion of them very easily (diplomatic cables and different military things).

If you were going to break the law (planting evidence) to smear the character of someone, smear the person who has a higher chance of the public siding with.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by sterlind on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:40PM (#32090553)
then why wouldn't they have used it against Edward Snowden? he revealed a whole mass surveillance operation, along with misconduct by NSA agents, and there was a lot of popular support for him.

I still agree they could have smeared him, but I don't think it's improbable that the porn was actually his. Pedophiles are skilled at opsec, keeping secrets and doing unsavory things, so their background suits working in IC if they can conceal their behavior. And if discovered by a foreign intelligence agency, they'd be easy to extort into spying.

Vault 7 released a fair bit of code, didn't it? It would benefit state adversaries to leak that publicly, by burning exploits the CIA's using.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:49PM (#32090633)
How would it work with Snowden? "Yknow the guy who flew to Hong Kong and stated he deleted all his data? Turns out he still had one computer he forgot that just so happens to be jam packed with illegal porn."

Much easier to trap him in Russia and claim he's a foreign agent.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by newsclues on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:27PM (#32090903)
Because that dirty tricks team was busy with Assange
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by sneak on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:28AM (#32092011)
It was; they got the word "rape" printed next to Assange's name in hundreds of headlines despite the women involved saying that they were railroaded by police and that no rape occurred.

Character assassination is a common tool in the CIA toolbox.

Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boomboomsubban on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:46PM (#32090611)
Her court martialing could already happen without anything else needed, and was enough to get her up to 90 years in prison, of which she got a 35 year sentence.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by smitty1e on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:06PM (#32090750)
Living by the sword could result in dying thereby.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by boringg on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:15PM (#32090810)
I think all the comments miss that this comment is said as a joke. I don't think OP is meant that they literally did that - it would be a particularly dumb law enforcement move that would jeopardize the entire case.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by krapp on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @10:19PM (#32091255)
Plenty of people believe the government literally does that all the time, as a matter of routine.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by kornhole on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:16PM (#32090824)
This one is very hard to believe. A guy who worked on advanced hacking tools and was able to get out that much data without trace does not know how to use encrypted hidden volumes nor shred his hard drives?
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by wombat-man on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:33PM (#32090950)
Maybe he did. Maybe he wasn't able to shred in time.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by Bud on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:50PM (#32091055)
Easy for me to believe. Highly intelligent and skilled people are often also very arrogant and think they can't get caught. Or, they have blind spots. Or, they just get careless about certain things.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by spoonjim on Thursday July 14, 2022 @07:13AM (#32094424)
Leakers tend to be optimists and idealists. But it’s cynics and misanthropes who are the best at opsec.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by bearmode on Thursday July 14, 2022 @07:32AM (#32094549)
This leaker wasn't motivated by idealism, he was just a dickhead trying to get back at his employer.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by yucky on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:13PM (#32091567)
Edward Snowden was the exception, not the rule.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by spoonjim on Thursday July 14, 2022 @07:10AM (#32094406)
I don’t find that extremely surprising. The Catholic Church scandals have shown that child sexual abuse is much more widespread than anyone would like to think, and with all of the teenagers out there taking nude pictures there could easily be underage porn out there that people don’t even know is illicit. Between intentional and unintentional possession there is probably a significant percentage of the population who they could get on this charge.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by smeagull on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:13PM (#32090796)
ASD love doing that too. I think they got it from the Americans.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by _kbh_ on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:58AM (#32092196)
Have we ever seen proof that any intelligence agency has done something like this in the modern era?.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by smeagull on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:50AM (#32178687)
I have no written proof to offer.
Re:Ex-CIA coder behind WikiLeaks ‘Vault 7’ cache found guilt... by Terry_Roll on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:41PM (#32090568)
What word causes the ultimate form of cognitive dissonance in males?