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Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by nostromo on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:02PM (#32078216)
This is a common feature of dictatorships: a boneheaded decision from a central government wreaks havoc on the people in the field that would know better.

It reminds me of Mao ordering all sparrows be killed because they eat agriculture seeds.

This of course caused a much bigger crisis with insects destroying crops - because everyone knows sparrows also eat lots of insects.

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by sumanthvepa on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @12:09AM (#32078962)
Sri Lanka is not a dictatorship. They have regular elections. The Rajapakshas might have been authoritarian, even corrupt. But they won the last election in a landslide. Sri Lankans cannot entirely absolve themselves of blame for repeatedly electing a populist regime.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by HPsquared on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:43AM (#32079980)
Are the two mutually exclusive? I don't see why a democracy can't elect a dictator, even a different one every couple of years. In ancient Rome the title dictator was a short-term thing.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by dreen on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @06:48AM (#32080959)
In Rome there were two periods when the title of Dictator was used. First during the Republic where it indeed was a temporary role with limitations, then resurrected during the Empire as title only to justify authoritarianism.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by philistine on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:02AM (#32081486)
You’re not right. What Rome called a dictator is not the modern definition of the term. An elected autocrat can have similarities to a dictator, but they aren’t one. Unless they rig the elections!
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by acoard on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:20AM (#32083922)
You're arguing against something that wasn't said. They said the "title of Dictator" was used, and that is correct, it was used in Roman history as they said.

The Roman title of Dictator is different from a modern day dictator, agreed — but if you read carefully no-one argued otherwise. The Roman title of Dictator more aligns with the modern concept of "emergency powers."

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by cute_boi on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:14AM (#32081115)
Doesn't dictator means the one who have total control & power over a country? So, by definition, I think srilanka is not a dictatorship.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by kamaal on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:15AM (#32082202)
>>Sri Lankans cannot entirely absolve themselves of blame for repeatedly electing a populist regime.

If you have bigoted populace, it's dead easy to bait them into voting for some immediate emotional relief. Sri Lankan's wanted to have fun watching Tamils and Muslims get hurt, so it wasn't all that hard for some politician to get the people vote for him. The worse thing is they even put up with his bad decisions for the same reasons. And they did this for years.

The population is entirely responsible for this.

As it turns out they ran out of time, there's always that one point after which everything comes melting down.

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by murukesh_s on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @01:47AM (#32079372)
i think its an unfortunate combination of many things, covid being the main. this shows that democracies are not immune to leaders resorting to populist measures to win elections.. hope its a good lesson to lankans and rest of us.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by trhway on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:42AM (#32079979)
democracy isn't just about elections (otherwise even the totalitarian fascist Russia could have been called democratic :). Elections is just a basic necessary condition of democracy, a starting point. Many of those populist regimes aren't democracies really, they are more like ochlocracies naturally hijacked by authoritarians.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:35AM (#32081271)
Yes - exactly. Genuine democracies are a complex patchwork of competing interests which somehow balance to generate policy that benefits most of the population.

As soon as you have a government run for the benefit of a small group, you no longer have a democracy.

Elections don't change this. Not even nominally free and fair ones.

The problem - as always - is that any system of government trends towards capture by Dark Tetrad types. No matter what decisions they appear to make, and no matter whether they're left/right populist/monarchist democratic/authoritarian, the consequences are always disastrous.

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by pishpash on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:37PM (#32078447)
It's not that, really. There are only so many boneheaded decisions that can come from a central government, and you risk over-weighting one person directly. More frequently, it's the indirect, created conditions typical of centralized power that allow sycophants and incompetents to run decision-making at lower levels -- where there is more impact and volume -- based on purely political and personal reasons.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by hunglee2 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @02:25AM (#32079575)
'bad government must be authoritarian' meme is interesting to observe, as if it is impossible for bad governance to occur in democratic systems.

Sri Lanka clearly is a democracy, albeit a degenerate one

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by nibbleshifter on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @04:49AM (#32080324)
Its entirely possible for democratic systems to be authoritarian.

Sri Lanka is a democracy, in that they have elections, but it is also hilariously corrupt, with extremely authoritarian governance.

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by cute_boi on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:21AM (#32081171)
Which country isn't corrupt? I know many nations that are more corrupt than Srilanka. The major difference is Srilanka depended on tourism which led to this downfall.

Regarding the authoritarian governance, can you please supply the valid examples? Srilanka is just one example. There are many countries like Bhutan, Nepal which seems to be sliding day by day. I hope we won't label them authoritarian when they fail?

Democracy is not immune as people expect. We can't label demagouge who sways people as authoritarian. Democracy is only sucessful if majority of people aren't biased and vote based on merit rather than religion, greed etc.

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by hunglee2 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:42AM (#32084237)
this is not possible as 'authoritarian' is described as opposite to 'democratic'. Witness the recent posture of US alliance building / NATO to Asia pivoting / Anti-BRI funding.
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Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by hellomyguys on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:46AM (#32082656)
Wanting to overturn an election due to false claims of voter fraud is exactly the same as people protesting bad governance /s
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by epistasis on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:27PM (#32078376)
Well to be fair to Mao, sparrows are renowned for their bourgeois capitalists tendencies.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by rmatt2000 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:31PM (#32078404)
The sparrows in my yard have been exploiting and oppressing the wrens for years.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by pfdietz on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @11:35PM (#32078771)
The wrens are stuck back in the middle ages. They keep having faires about it.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by EdwardDiego on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:27AM (#32079899)
That's a golf clap worthy pun.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by ethbr0 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:38PM (#32078454)
Sometimes I think a huge percent of communism's economic overhead is simply everyone having to remember another dictionary's worth of current communist truths.

To the extent they have less mental free space to actually do work.

Even in abridged form... that's a lot. https://campbellmgold.co.uk/archive_definitive/red_book_chai...

Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by krainboltgreene on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @10:59PM (#32078569)
it's two words man
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by drdeca on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @01:03AM (#32079193)
Huh?
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by imtringued on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @02:18AM (#32079542)
Organic farming
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by hellomyguys on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:53AM (#32082741)
This is a common feature of most hierarchical structures (and also democracies)...
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by adrianN on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @03:20AM (#32079863)
I'm not sure that "people in the field" would have predicted that killing all sparrows will lead to a surge of insects.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by CrackerNews on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:30AM (#32082434)
Perhaps Mao appealed too heavily to the sentiment of farmers upset with their seeds being eaten, not realizing that killing the sparrows would have had adverse ecological effects.
Re:Sri Lanka is having a textbook currency crisis, triggered... by wesleywt on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @12:49AM (#32079138)
This was populalism with a dose of nationalism. Not a dictatorship, more in vain of Trumpism.