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Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by asdff on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:19PM (#31940531)
Sometimes the market is not worth existing if it harms the planet. And most cities were actually designed for streetcar lines in the U.S., that includes all the big ones in California too. We just need to reengage that, and do simple things like give the existing bus networks signal preemption and their own lanes. Plus considering most car trips are under 5 miles and california has good weather, it makes no sense why there shouldn't be bike lanes absolutely everywhere and the majority of journeys done on bike or ebike.
Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by djbusby on Thursday June 30, 2022 @09:09PM (#31940866)
Some cities even started out with a bunch of street-cars then tore out all the lines (for cars!) rather than expand existing rail - looking at you Seattle
Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by dskrvk on Thursday June 30, 2022 @10:23PM (#31941479)
Philly did this too, though in the recent years the city started bringing some lines back. Heck, when the full tram network was around a 100 years ago, it could take you pretty far out into the suburbs, while today you either have to take the train which comes every 30-60 minutes or drive.
Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by quartesixte on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:24PM (#31940573)
Streetcars would be an amazing God send to LA. Would love to have them back.
Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by asdff on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:55AM (#31942539)
Honestly the bus network in LA is great as far as US cities are concerned. Great coverage, but hampered by sharing the grade with cars and waiting at red lights. All it would take is a can of paint for a bus lane and the same signal preemption enjoyed by police cars looking to run a red. No new technology is required or great investment beyond that.
Re:Driverless robotaxi fleet paralyzed for hours in San Fran... by astrange on Thursday June 30, 2022 @11:13PM (#31941866)
Those largely died out because they were run by private operators, but the government then decided to make them cheaper by imposing price controls, and then didn't "nationalize" them when they ran out of business and died.

(The common story is they were bought up and shut down by car companies, but that's a myth afaik.)