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Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by captaincaveman on Thursday June 30, 2022 @04:57AM (#31930140)
Well its not a cheap product, I suspect its just a massive knot of complexity and thus massively expensive to maintain and manage.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by threeseed on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:32AM (#31930335)
> Well its not a cheap product

Jira is pretty cheap actually compared to Asana etc.

Free up to 10 users, $14.5/month up to 20,000.

https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by encryptluks2 on Thursday June 30, 2022 @04:59AM (#31930152)
Massive pile of garbage is more like it. As a developer, the only thing slowing me down from getting work done was waiting on JIRA and being told to use the crap they call Confluence to document things.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by yardstick on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:10AM (#31930199)
What do you recommend instead?

JIRA & Confluence seem to be the best of a bad bunch. I do miss the self-hosted option.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by mvonballmo on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:16AM (#31930227)
Honestly, Azure DevOps is a solid replacement. The integration is really good and the "Boards" software really feels like they're eating their own dog food. Their Wiki software is Markdown stored in a Git repo (unlike Confluence's mess). It's fast, permissions are relatively intuitive and fast, etc.

It's worth a look if you're evaluating.

JetBrains Space is another alternative, but I have no experience with it.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by ed_blackburn on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:27AM (#31930298)
Treat it like a software problem, start with the simplest thing that'll work and then introduce more complexity or features when you need them. Chances are you'll start with GH issues or a shared doc in a productivity suite and where ever you land, it won't be JIRA.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by rusticpenn on Thursday June 30, 2022 @07:59AM (#31931297)
Confluence search has a lot of issues. Its almost impossible to search for documentation or anything there. Even Slack search is leagues better and can be used as a documentation/ help tool.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by theteapot on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:15AM (#31930220)
README.md
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by lmm on Thursday June 30, 2022 @07:45AM (#31931189)
Trello was good, although it's quickly being run into the ground.

Mediawiki is a pain to maintain but nothing else comes close.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by theteapot on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:19AM (#31930243)
It's not great but it's not that bad. A business has to have documentation and has to have a standardized workflows around doc. Jira/Confluence is not what I would choose but it works OK.