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Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by willcipriano on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @05:58PM (#31913607)
This is how people want it. It's been two years of "Twitter is a private platform" over and over again. If you aren't going to stand for free speech when someone wants to talk about the Wuhan lab, why the hell would you expect anyone to defend your right to furry porn?
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by chipotle_coyote on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:12PM (#31913746)
Because it’s not automatically the same thing just because both are private (e.g., non-governmental) organizations. A newspaper can exercise editorial control over what it publishes, but AT&T can’t exercise editorial control over your phone calls. Hacker News can moderate user content, but an ISP can’t moderate what you send over its network.

The question of whether Twitter and Facebook should be treated like a phone company than they are like Hacker News isn’t a stupid one, and I don’t think it’s as clearcut as people on both sides of this debate would like it to be. But the question of whether a payment processor should be able to exercise this kind of editorial control over transactions using them as an intermediary is not really the same question.

Also, keep your paws off my furry porn.

Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by willcipriano on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:15PM (#31913783)
Payment processors similarly prevented right wing sites from accepting donations and payments. Gab as one example had to create their own server farm and payment system in order to operate since they were shut out of every other provider.

Did you have a problem then?

Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by chipotle_coyote on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @08:57PM (#31915185)
If we want to subject payment processors—or social media—to the common carrier standard, then obviously, they can’t deny services to anyone who isn’t violating the law. Having politics Visa, Mastercard, or Stripe doesn’t like isn’t illegal.

The point I’m making is that I don’t think it’s hypocritical to suggest that such a standard applies to some companies, not all companies, which is what your original post seemed to suggest. I’d personally want to set the bar pretty high when it comes to taking away any business’s right to choose their own customers.

Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by Dylan16807 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:52PM (#31915924)
I thought it was funny but yes I definitely had a problem with payment processors' ability to do so.
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by themitigating on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @08:43PM (#31915078)
There are alternative payment methods.
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by robonerd on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:19PM (#31913825)
> This is how people want it.

Some people sure. Maybe even the "twitter consensus" or "HN consensus", but I think you should be very careful about taking apparent consensus on these sort of social media platforms as indicative of a broader consensus in society.

Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by giantrobot on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:57PM (#31914177)
> talk about the Wuhan lab

When this is just coded language meaning "racist conspiracy theories", sites don't want to carry those posts. Social media sites are catching on to the coded language game.

Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by willcipriano on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @07:56PM (#31914666)
If you want to make noticing that a few miles up the road from the epicenter of the COVID outbreak was a lab, doing experiments with that very virus, a racist act. I'd then make that claim that those who consume furry porn are pedophiles with greater accuracy.
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by themitigating on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @08:46PM (#31915102)
Show me where someone who made the accusation about the lab was banned from a site for making that accusation and nothing else.
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by willcipriano on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:40PM (#31915850)
Re:Mastercard and visa are the de facto regulators of porn by giantrobot on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:58AM (#31916645)
Ah yes, great examples. The people were clearly only pointing out that COVID originated from the same city where a virology lab exists...wait a second, they're both promulgating the "China made COVID" line.

There's a big difference between saying COVID originated from Wuhan and conspiracy theories saying COVID was manmade.