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Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by marginalia_nu on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:28PM (#31852405)
I think this is largely the problem with mobile phones as well. Like you probably aren't going to go mad or get rectangular eyes or whatever, but you can just sort of sedate that sensation of boredom with scrolling reddit or facebook or whatever, which does all of bupkis for making us happy in the long term.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by blowski on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:39PM (#31852571)
This is the same argument with all consuming vs producing.

It's why there was a moral panic in the 1800s over Jane Austen style fiction, in the 1930s over radio, and so on.

Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different to playing computer games 12 hours a day, doing endless marathons, watching sports, investing, or many similar activities.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by walleeee on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:15PM (#31854589)
phones are on a different level than fiction or radio or arguably even cannabis imo

you can do something else while you listen to the radio or smoke pot (e.g., clean your house, hang out with friends or family, with weed you can even read or program)

phones and books both consume your attention, but a book at least demands a bit of effort to follow and might introduce you to new ideas or vocabulary, even if you're reading pulp fiction

on the other hand you can scroll twitter or insta or watch tiktok absolutely mindlessly, and doing so will tend to become a habit all while it chips away at your attention span and your willpower

weed can make boredom feel ok too, and can certainly affect attention, willpower and memory, but if used in moderation it can also magnify your curiosity and sense of wonder, help you introspect, etc

cannabis is a powerful entheogen and it deserves far more respect and restraint than it currently receives

smartphones give us enormous powers but they can also exert massive power over our minds and actions, they too should be treated with caution and used with far more restraint

cannabis might make you lazy or suggestible, and it can even be dangerous for some people or if used irresponsibly, but it won't spoon feed you mind-melting pablum or ads or propaganda or spy on you

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:56PM (#31856805)
If we're going to credit books with potentially expanding your vocabulary, we should at least acknowledge that while you can mindlessly scroll through insta and tiktok you can also be consuming thoughtful and educational content. Even tiktok which doesn't exactly lend itself to useful content has some great stuff.

Books, TV, the internet, cell phones all have the potential to benefit you. They often don't, but it's not the medium that's the problem, it's our own choices - except the spying on you bit. That's 100% a problem with TV, the internet, cell phones and now even books.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by a9h74j on Thursday June 23, 2022 @11:32PM (#31857491)
Don't want to contradict your point, just a FWIW ...

Yesterday I saw a TV ad for Meta suggesting that with VR you will be able to stand in a small conversational circle with Socrates.

Yea, it will be educational.

But skepticism aside, with a personal instance of AI some benefits could be significant. Just having a personal AI critic to read your writing and give feedback could be a huge benefit -- or if not your writing, your thought process.

Queue the spying on you part.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:06AM (#31859339)
Right? The fact that we have all this cool tech, but it's all actively being used against us instead of working for us really dulls my enthusiasm for technology. What good is it if we get robot butlers or personal AI assistants if the assistants can't keep our personal info to themselves and the robots record everything they see and hear and stream that back to MegaCorp along with extensive telemetry detailing every time we have sex with them? Already we've seen Roombas being used to spy on the people who paid for them, with iRobot Corporation selling maps of the inside of their homes to random 3rd parties.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by tim333 on Friday June 24, 2022 @07:03AM (#31860048)
The benefits often outweigh the 'spying on you', which is usually just targeted ads.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by eternalban on Friday June 24, 2022 @10:31AM (#31862513)
No, this is not an accurate assessment of what is at stake here.

So yeah, targeted ads and spooky tv sets are annoying at the least but the poing is that the infrastructure could easily support 1984 style monitors.

Regardless of the purpose of current usage, this is infrastructure for a surveillance society. That is the issue. The infrastructure is not going to go away unless we rip it down [down to and including transport layer] and rebuild with privacy and other human rights protections as a primary requirement of ubiquitous networking. DARPA was not concerned about these matters so all these fall under the 'operators discretion'.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by a9h74j on Friday June 24, 2022 @01:09PM (#31865841)
machine voice: Your post shows a combined social volatility plus initiative score over 37. Please report to the HappyWellnessCenter for your injections. ... While you are there, the weed is free.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by sizzle on Saturday June 25, 2022 @04:18AM (#31873457)
Their algorithm dispenses a personalized feed that uses soooo much data from your watch preferences alone, regardless of it's permissions. This is so far ahead of user suggestion systems on other platforms, which are generally driven by collaborative filtering. Which inadvertantly is a stopgap for psychological exploitation of users. Other platforms plateau on their information gathering of profile due to the implicit conformity of the exchanges on social media. Not TikTok though.

I want to start by saying this isn't your Cold War sheen propaganda. This is Harmonious Society, "river crab" propaganda. This method can belie and camouflage the salient points of persuasion, sure. But it's not only intended to stream a deluge of coercive media. The purpose is to dominate the aesthetic discourse around topics, learning as much about you as they can, while ingratiating their clusters of community norms at the same time. There isn't a monolithic identity either. It's about picking the winners of our long form cultural evolution. Country to country data definitely shows varying preferences, but aside from the initial exposure to determine what clusters you associate with, these feeds are tailored heavily by user interaction.

The public description of their process divulges the use of object and character recognition, along with audio/tag keywords, to all items in a video. So even on a virtual machine with no app permissions, this site is making an incredibly detailed profile of your media consumption habits. For example, when you stop watching a video at a certain point, TikTok records what items were in it up to that point making you stay, and what audio/objects occurred at the point of losing interest. This catalog culminates as a set of meticulous preferences that end up correlating to all sorts of useful suggestion information; preferences for video formats(do you like dance videos, rants, or documentary content?), types of speech(language and culture obviously, but also intonation, volume, frequency of use, monologue vs dialogue), length and pacing, even framing of the camera, its all logged and associated with your device and you. Along with this, topics and community clusters are accrued.

This goes way beyond blanket brainwashing or disinformation propaganda in it's effectiveness. It's like if a personal interrogator was assigned to billions of people to know every minute detail of their personal media narratives. And at the same time, became a congenial friend who is coaxing all of them to subtlety shift their identities and preferences. Mass media always takes this trend to some degree, but TikTok isolates the individual's identity. (I didn’t write this lol)

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Friday June 24, 2022 @12:05PM (#31864482)
It's not about ads. it's about manipulation and gathering data to be used against you at every and any opportunity. The data that's sold and passed around is used to determine things like how much you pay for things vs your neighbor. It determines what services you are offered and at what terms.

If a store thinks I make more money than you, I might for example be told they've got a return policy that is much more generous than what they'll tell you. There are places where you will wait longer on hold, getting repeatedly bumped back to make room for people who have a better "consumer score" than you do.

The data is handed over to the state and locked away until it's useful to them. It's can get you arrested or questioned by police when you've committed no crime. It can get you sued for things which should not be crimes but are. It's used by politicians who carve out the borders of their districts specifically to limit the ability for your vote to make any difference.

That data is used to target you with lies and misinformation. It allows you to be targeted by extremist groups. It can be used to decide if you get hired or not. You could be turned down for housing because of it. There are millions of things that might prejudice another person against you. Your lifestyle, your politics, your religion, the people you associate with, your sexual history, your medical conditions, etc. You can't know who is accessing your information or for what reason, or know how accurate that data is, or know if/how it is being protected.

It's a gross violation of your rights, which yes, sometimes is used to manipulate you into buying something you might not have bought otherwise, but increasingly is used for much much more and once the intimate details of your life have been taken from you, you can never take them back or prevent them from spreading.

However much you enjoy the products that are spying you, you can't ever say if the benefits outweigh the costs. You aren't even allowed to know what the costs are or when you are paying for them, and there will never come a time when you have paid in full and it can no longer cost you something else.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by a9h74j on Friday June 24, 2022 @12:41PM (#31865281)
Ten years ago Sherry Terkel, in Alone Together, described various electronic companions being deployed, even for very young kids. Imagine a dossier/record of all your secret whispers to electronic "friends" recorded from the time you are three years old. As the comments above suggest, the risks go beyond merely violating informed consent.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:35PM (#31868246)
We've already kind of seen a form of that in Hello Barbie

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/hello-barbie-the-cree...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/26/hackers-c...

The book looks good btw! And I'm checking out her TED talk. If you're secretly an AI book ad pushing algorithm you just got me...

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by a9h74j on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:14PM (#31870156)
Good links.

Paraphrasing, one of the best quotes in Turkle's book: ~We have evolved voices over millions of years to convey information, feeling and nuance. But [young people, who won't answer the phone] want to text instead.~

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by tim333 on Saturday June 25, 2022 @07:35AM (#31874385)
Much of the stuff you mention like shops treating rich customers better predates tech and just is kind of how the world is. Likewise "arrested or questioned by police when you've committed no crime" happened pre tech and is more a problem with the police and legal system than say facebook leaking what your preferences are. The worst places I've been with real spying where you got arrested/killed for doing the wrong thing were like 1980s China and Myanmar with little tech and many human spies. I'm skeptical tech makes this worse.

I mean tech is a double edged sword but I'm guessing the positive like police having a job beating people up without being filmed by some phone outweigh stuff like your roomba uploading your floor plan.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Saturday June 25, 2022 @03:01PM (#31877775)
> Much of the stuff you mention like shops treating rich customers better predates tech and just is kind of how the world is.

Of course, human nature and corporate greed don't change. The difference is scale. In the past stores had to know you were rich to treat you better. They weren't checking your bank account balance at the door. Now they can and increasing do exactly that.

Same with real spying. Maybe you in 1980s china you had to watch what you said around your neighbors. Today you have to watch what you say while alone in your own home. It's just even just what you say today either, but everything you've said or written over decades that can be mined. You don't have to go to the other side of the globe to see historical examples of how this would have been abused either, Joseph McCarthy would have loved to have this data.

Again, the tech isn't the problem. It's great that was can film police abuses. It's great that we have GPS. What we don't have are regulations that prevent the abuse of our data which is collected and disseminated at an unprecedented scale and never goes away. there exists a permanent record of what you've said, what you've done, and everywhere you've been. We're going to see it used to hurt people more and more often. There are already plans to use this data to attack people who have gotten abortions. It could very soon be used against those in homosexual or interracial relationships as those too are now at risk of becoming crimes.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by thrixton on Saturday June 25, 2022 @01:43AM (#31872876)
This is such a dystopian and paranoid view of the system. And unfortunately, I think if it's not totally a reality now, it's one we're heading for as it is the unchecked natural end of our current path.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Saturday June 25, 2022 @03:03PM (#31877787)
Everything I mentioned has already been happening, it's just a matter of scale. It's becoming more common as time goes on. If it hasn't impacted you personally already, it will although you may not be aware of it.

If your insurance rates go up next year, you won't be told that it was because people in your area spent more on fast food over the last 6 months than last year. you just get the highe4r bill.

What I fear is that we'll end up with a digital caste system where people are treated very differently based on hidden scores that follow them everywhere.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by a9h74j on Monday June 27, 2022 @02:27PM (#31898623)
I could be badly misinformed, but I have the sense that the Chinese social credit score system might be relatively open in its criteria, and prosocial, compared to whatever emerges in some other places.

In general, with a more open system, you might also have more hope to redeem yourself, or at least evaluate effective options.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Monday June 27, 2022 @03:42PM (#31899747)
I have heard that China's social credit system isn't all that much different from what we've been developing here in the US, it's just more transparent. At least the person in China who can't board a train to travel knows why. We can have all the same oppression right here at home while our oppressors can boast about how free we all are, how they are empowering us with choices, and how grateful we should be for their benevolence.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by sizzle on Saturday June 25, 2022 @04:18AM (#31873455)
Their algorithm dispenses a personalized feed that uses soooo much data from your watch preferences alone, regardless of it's permissions. This is so far ahead of user suggestion systems on other platforms, which are generally driven by collaborative filtering. Which inadvertantly is a stopgap for psychological exploitation of users. Other platforms plateau on their information gathering of profile due to the implicit conformity of the exchanges on social media. Not TikTok though.

I want to start by saying this isn't your Cold War sheen propaganda. This is Harmonious Society, "river crab" propaganda. This method can belie and camouflage the salient points of persuasion, sure. But it's not only intended to stream a deluge of coercive media. The purpose is to dominate the aesthetic discourse around topics, learning as much about you as they can, while ingratiating their clusters of community norms at the same time. There isn't a monolithic identity either. It's about picking the winners of our long form cultural evolution. Country to country data definitely shows varying preferences, but aside from the initial exposure to determine what clusters you associate with, these feeds are tailored heavily by user interaction.

The public description of their process divulges the use of object and character recognition, along with audio/tag keywords, to all items in a video. So even on a virtual machine with no app permissions, this site is making an incredibly detailed profile of your media consumption habits. For example, when you stop watching a video at a certain point, TikTok records what items were in it up to that point making you stay, and what audio/objects occurred at the point of losing interest. This catalog culminates as a set of meticulous preferences that end up correlating to all sorts of useful suggestion information; preferences for video formats(do you like dance videos, rants, or documentary content?), types of speech(language and culture obviously, but also intonation, volume, frequency of use, monologue vs dialogue), length and pacing, even framing of the camera, its all logged and associated with your device and you. Along with this, topics and community clusters are accrued.

This goes way beyond blanket brainwashing or disinformation propaganda in it's effectiveness. It's like if a personal interrogator was assigned to billions of people to know every minute detail of their personal media narratives. And at the same time, became a congenial friend who is coaxing all of them to subtlety shift their identities and preferences. Mass media always takes this trend to some degree, but TikTok isolates the individual's identity. (I didn’t write this lol)

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by walleeee on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:30PM (#31856971)
I definitely agree there are upsides. I had a Twitter for a while and found a ton of interesting articles, informative accounts, etc. I've learned a ton from YouTube. Sure, some TikTok videos can be helpful.

But the idea that the media forms and platforms play no causal role and it's all on us and our choices is nearly indefensible imo

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by autoexec on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:09AM (#31859354)
> But the idea that the media forms and platforms play no causal role and it's all on us and our choices is nearly indefensible imo

Some do make it a lot harder to make beneficial choices than others for sure! Some are specifically designed for it.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by nradov on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:11PM (#31856871)
I use my phone to listen to podcasts and audio books while I exercise.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by walleeee on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:22PM (#31856933)
Yep, me too!
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by disqard on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:13PM (#31853045)
I'm 90% sure that "endless marathons" referred to "watching entire seasons of shows on NetFlix", not "running 26.2 miles over and over".
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by nklende on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:25PM (#31854700)
I was previously at a place in my life where I compulsively did endurance exercise (including 3 marathons) to keep myself fatigued and numb my feelings. It was not too different to how some people smoke weed or drink, except that everyone in my life thought it was great and healthy. I spent a long time not making some very hard but positive life choices, and now my stomach lining is shot from pounding NSAIDs to keep exercising through joint pain.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by thirtyfivecent on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:42PM (#31855509)
Count yourself extremely lucky if you know for certain it was caused by NSAIDs. Thats easy to fix compared to a bacterial infection. I have done a two week water fast to let ulcers in my stomach/gut heal in the past with great success.

People claim these systems dont shut down as you are still digesting body fat, but they for the most part do shut down and somewhere in doing that they heal very quickly. I have done it a few times (for NSAIDs and other pain killers having done damage to gut and stomach and when i get glutened giving me ulcers in my gut).

A benefit is that things like food dont rub against the ulcers which are basically like little cuts and that helps too heal too during the fast. You can go on having pain for months or years trying to deal with them in another way. Remember to dose some losalt for potassium and sodium ( your electrolytes ) while you fast to limit the dizzyness and fatigue. Im not sure magnesium powder would be a good idea due to it being tough on the stomach normally... it would stop the muscle cramps you will get... but it might stop the whole thing working ... i never used it while healing ulcers and lining damage .... but i have more recently when fasting to lose weight and it does make it easier .. magnesium tablets or capsules would be a terrible idea though those are really tough on the stomach and have a lot of added ingredients in the fillers and capsule depending on the company. Smaller fasts would also help. Good luck.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by LeSaucy on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:00PM (#31853694)
Cannabis and jogging make a lovely combination.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by hirvi74 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:17PM (#31854631)
I'm not convinced the heart agrees (medically speaking).
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by akhmatova on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:58PM (#31855638)
Lovely?

Based on what it's doing to your lungs and circulatory system, I'd put it more in the "it rocks, until it doesn't" category.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by pmoriarty on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:38PM (#31856406)
You don't have to smoke cannabis to use it. You could eat or drink it, which does nothing to your lungs, afaik.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by akhmatova on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:48PM (#31856758)
As is widely known. It's also the decidedly less popular route of intake.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by Werewolf255 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:25PM (#31854044)
That runner's high is something else after the 104th mile!
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by ghostbrainalpha on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:35PM (#31854166)
Although if you are a good runner, I've heard moderate cannabis usage can help bring on the runners high much quicker making running more fun.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by aaaaaaaaata on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:36PM (#31867344)
"Stuff that makes serotonin is known to increase the onset of effects of serotonin."
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by RajT88 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @01:52PM (#31852746)
As a (mostly former) distance runner. Running endless marathons is most certainly not harmless. You will face eventually injuries which affect you for the rest of your life.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by ChristianGeek on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:27PM (#31855363)
I’m a distance runner too; I try to distance myself from running.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by nradov on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:15PM (#31856894)
There's distance and then there's distance. You can be a serious endurance athlete but focus on shorter races, with judicious use of low-impact cross training to reduce the risk of injuries while still building an aerobic base.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by RajT88 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:01PM (#31857093)
I only have done a few marathon or longer races. When I was running regularly I would do 25-30 miles a week.

It is doing that for decades which messes you up eventually.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by nradov on Friday June 24, 2022 @09:44AM (#31861689)
It really depends on running form and individual physiology. Some runners are more resilient than others, and using good technique makes a major difference in injury risk.

But my point is that you can run reasonably fast in races with fairly low running mileage. Do most of the base and tempo workouts cross training on an elliptical machine or something, and save the running for interval workouts.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by RajT88 on Monday June 27, 2022 @02:12AM (#31891139)
> It really depends on running form and individual physiology

True enough. I too have read "Born to Run", and would suggest that most modern humans aren't adapted to it (certain populations certainly, but most not). Although I have hit reasonably good times, I don't count myself among that population. In high school and in my 30's, I certainly was in the 90th percentile of runners, just by the numbers. Individual races, definitely higher. I love to look at the form and economy of top tier runners, and frankly, I'm not built like that; I could never perform like that. I'm bound to break down eventually, and I'm pretty good at running.

> on an elliptical machine or something

This is not running. This is training for running by not-running. Dress it up how you like, but it's how people like me save the damaging work for races.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by marginalia_nu on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:10PM (#31853008)
Some of those moral panics did lead to action though.

Hard drugs, alcohol, gambling, duels; a lot of this stuff is if not banned then at least restricted and regulated.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by edmundsauto on Thursday June 23, 2022 @03:55PM (#31854378)
That’s not a clear win, as in some cases the cure proved worse than the disease. And was co-opted for goals around discrimination.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by yeahNo88 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:28PM (#31855375)
Yeah the cure industrialists limiting personal freedom by lobbying government for the greater good.

Are we not tired of that story? So what if humanity does not go to Mars? Is dad going to be unhappy about our efforts when everyone is dead?

Our culture is a joke of wishful thinking and emotional abuse to achieve someone else’s goals disguised as essential application of agency.

How terrible if humans lived a completely different agency than kowtowing to yesteryears industrial necessity to rebuild the world after humanity destroyed it.

Grigori Perelman has achieved more of note than any of us; I know about his accomplishments and none of yours. He did it all with paper and pencil. IMO our low effort consumerism and industrialist slog is destroying our imaginations and keeping us from better ideas.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by tsol on Thursday June 23, 2022 @06:19PM (#31855800)
Drugs are functionally different, I'd argue. You can quit games any time without pain, given enough mental resolve or motivation. No matter how good a reason it is you still have to deal with physical withdrawal when it comes to drugs
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by hmmdar on Thursday June 23, 2022 @10:20PM (#31857165)
I found this a good review of the physical and chemical impact quitting marijuana. https://youtu.be/7u_cm5b1s7Y

I'd argue that the chemical withdrawal effects of marijuana, are nothing compared to habitual smoking, alcohol or other "hard" drug use. But there are still some chemical withdrawal effects.

Personally I've had Minor irritability after not having an edible for a few days if I've been consistently having them nearly daily for few days. But I've also realized this, and moderate use more to only once or twice a week, and only 5-10mg at a time. I've grown to like the feel of 5mg in the evening overall. Accounting for the blah feeling the next morning/day.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by elevaet on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:17PM (#31856278)
I thought it was pretty well known by now that there isn't really any physical withdrawl with cannabis; it's basically just mental.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by lostmsu on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:04PM (#31852918)
I'd say marathons and computer games (except the clickers) should not be on this list due to the difference between active vs passive participation.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by oneoff786 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:30PM (#31853306)
Clickers are better than people give credit. Thinking about growth curves is an uncommon challenge. Pretty much nothing else commonly involves things expanding faster than exponentially. You don’t actually just click mindlessly. You typically need an understanding of the system otherwise you’re just waiting for infeasible amounts of time.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dTal on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:20PM (#31855299)
As far as I'm concerned, the clicker genre reached its zenith, its purest expression, in Universal Paperclips. In no other game has the "automate exponential growth" mechanic been used to tell a story more poignantly, or make philosophical points so eloquently. Other clicker games use flashy graphics and sound effects to disguise their essential emptiness; not Universal Paperclips. Its austere plaintext webpage offers only hints and fragments of the world the numbers are meant to represent, its minimalism a baleful commentary on the subject matter itself.

I played it twice, and do not regret it.

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by shrimp_emoji on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:34PM (#31856690)
>computer games 12 hours a day

I've heard professors say something to the effect of "students a decade or two ago used to be more productive". I don't have trouble believing that; so would I (I think) without the potency of modern entertainment. It's harder to do stuff while eating such good electric lotuses. :p

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by akhmatova on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:54PM (#31855609)
Being addicted to cannabis is not really any different [from non-chemical habits]

On a psychological level, perhaps. But it is pretty obviously not so when it comes to physical risk (if one smokes in whichever form).

Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by beowulfey on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:54PM (#31853601)
No, but currently cannabis use is the one exploding in popularity compared to those others
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by andi999 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:36PM (#31854811)
Maybe they all were right.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dogman144 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:52PM (#31854999)
agreed. I started bookmarking a specific open source repo and automechanic wiki and I’m slowly conditioning myself to read those if I want to waste time on my phone. I enjoy reading them anyway as much (or a lot more) than Reddit or w/e, just needed to make it habitual bc I didn’t think about going to those as a first stop to get lost in. Def helps and returns the joy of having internet access, lot of cool stuff to learn.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by gen220 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:57PM (#31855631)
Consider using an RSS reader and bookmarking that! It’s nice to be able to grow your list of things to “default browse” to, over time.
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dogman144 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:05PM (#31856194)
Hot tip! Thx
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by nabogh on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:13PM (#31855227)
Got a link to that wiki? Sounds useful
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dogman144 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @07:02PM (#31856178)
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by esarbe on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:19PM (#31855281)
Indeed!
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by ruined on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:55PM (#31853616)
thanks for reminding me that's enough hn for today
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by dbtc on Thursday June 23, 2022 @02:14PM (#31853069)
phonestoned
Re:As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick by bennysomething on Thursday June 23, 2022 @05:06PM (#31855157)
That's a really good point. I never thought of it that way.