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Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by colechristensen on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:15PM (#31649471)
I was seriously looking to buy and stopped when I was quoted a 9 month delivery time.

Also, what is the point of a dealership if you have to wait a very long time and have no negotiation leverage? They might find they regret their temporary boost of profits when it destroys them. Ford is selling EVs direct to consumer now, the writing may be on the wall for dealerships.

Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by a2tech on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:20PM (#31649499)
My friends who work at Ford all report a general feeling of being over the dealership. They’re just as sick of the dealer shenanigans as we consumers are and it sounds like they’re working hard on cutting them out. This didn’t have to be—but the dealers insisted on being scummy and not changing with the times and now they’re left friendless.
Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by aidenn0 on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:51PM (#31649701)
TBF there is a very slow moving pendulum. The manufacturers screwed the dealerships many decades ago, so the government passed laws to protect dealerships (see also: in some states you can't buy a Tesla at a Tesla showroom). The dealers in turn used those regulations as leverage against the manufacturers.

General speaking: in times of high-margins, manufacturers want to kill the dealerships to capture a larger slice of those margins. In times of low-margins (even negative net margins) the manufacturers want to force the dealerships to eat as much of the cost as possible.

Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by KerrAvon on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @01:08AM (#31650107)
Manufacturers having the capability to do this is a relatively recent development, though, historically speaking. Originally even the largest manufacturers couldn’t afford to build out the necessary sales and service infrastructure across the US without the independent dealers.
Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by MobileVet on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @12:13AM (#31649841)
Ford recently announced that all new electric vehicles will be ordered direct and at MSRP.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40175990/ford-online-sale...

Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by colejohnson66 on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:07AM (#31652955)
Previously, some dealerships were offering “cut the line” fees to their Lightning reservations, and Ford called them out by saying that dealerships that do that will get less stock.

It’s about time OEMs fight back against dealerships.

Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by ChrisRR on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:15AM (#31653049)
> Also, what is the point of a dealership

Because the US has a law that prohibits direct sales and must be made through a dealership. Presumably some middle man bribed their way to creating that law

Re:Carmakers feel chip crisis easing by colechristensen on Tuesday June 07, 2022 @08:26AM (#31653170)
The US doesn’t have that late, some states do, and it was out on at a time where the thought was to protect the downtrodden dealers