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Re:Is everything falling apart? by Melatonic on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:01PM (#31207727)
A lot of those very much do not sound like "things are falling apart" to me
Re:Is everything falling apart? by oicU00 on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:16PM (#31207978)
Reality is not unzipping in that the speed of light is different. A lot of inner monologues, sense of belonging, hope for the future, as something like covid makes the masses see a minority who do none of the “real work” as dependents who somehow have far more comfortable lives.

Tech oligarchs who were all “Disrupt!” are now all “Wait not me! I’m a rent seeker now!”

It’s a predictable circle of life given the common and fundamentally unchanged from any past iteration over the last thousands of years, human condition.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by Melting_Harps on Friday April 29, 2022 @08:54PM (#31212334)
> Tech oligarchs who were all “Disrupt!” are now all “Wait not me! I’m a rent seeker now!”

It's always been an empty platitude from the SV disillusional masses: when the business model is 'grow at all costs, even if you lose money' in order to cash out on an over-inflated IPO, it was clear that it was never to disrupt anything. It was t:o build something seemingly novel, raise funds to fight a war of attrition, moat, weaken the opposition and take majority market-share and then cash out.

Plan B is selling out to some megacorp/tech oligarch in order to rinse and repeat as a 'serial entrepreneur' until you eventually get to a position in which you get on a board and you can ossify something like Twitter, too!

Re:Is everything falling apart? by toomuchtodo on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:29PM (#31208196)
Not a wealthy investor but would be interested in your newsletter if it’s reasonably priced.
Re:Is everything falling apart? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:20PM (#31208057)
It’s interesting, even if you don’t believe in a higher power, people that believe in God have far lower rates of depression and suicide, so if you try to optimize your life for happiness and mental robustness, it’s then logical to believe in a higher power.

This is an interesting manifestation of the incompleteness theorem. :)

Re:Is everything falling apart? by jhbadger on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:36PM (#31210300)
The happiest country in the world is Finland [1]. And two-thirds of them are atheists[2]. On the other hand, the most religious places in the world [3] are not on the happy list and most of them are desperately poor and miserable places.

[1] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-... [2] https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/2... [3] https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/most-religious-countries...

Re:Is everything falling apart? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 29, 2022 @05:56PM (#31211026)
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/finland-is...

“ In one comparison made by the World Health Organization, the per capita prevalence of unipolar depressive disorders is highest in the world in the United States. Among Western countries, Finland is number two.”

Re:Is everything falling apart? by judahmeek on Friday April 29, 2022 @01:52PM (#31208531)
I don't consider basing my worldview on emotion-based fantasies mentally robust.

Is it possible that believing a lie increases ones chances of being happy & less depressed?

Sure, but that doesn't make it worthwhile.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by lampshades on Friday April 29, 2022 @02:45PM (#31209136)
Or maybe it's not a lie and believers are genuinely happier and less depressed.
Re:Is everything falling apart? by judahmeek on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:02PM (#31209338)
Every religion states that the other religions are lies, which means that, at the very least, the majority of religious people believe a lie as a fundamental aspect of their worldview.

Thus, you apparently can be genuinely happier if your worldview is based on a lie.

Still not worth it.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by lampshades on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:13PM (#31209471)
> Every religion states that the other religions are lies, which means that, at the very least, the majority of religious people believe a lie as a fundamental aspect of their worldview.

I don't think I've ever heard of a religion that is so airtight that it blocked any ability to reason on how the others might not be a lie also.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by judahmeek on Friday April 29, 2022 @11:08PM (#31213015)
And I don't think I've ever heard of an inclusive religion besides paganism & voodoo.
Re:Is everything falling apart? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:45PM (#31209808)
“ Every religion states that the other religions are lies “

Almost no religions state this, it might be an interesting thought experiment to steel-man your arguments :)

Re:Is everything falling apart? by BEEdwards on Friday April 29, 2022 @06:19PM (#31211242)
Yeah, that's why they are constantly trying to kill each other...
Re:Is everything falling apart? by swat535 on Saturday April 30, 2022 @10:39AM (#31216412)
That's a false dilemma, you are corroborating the actions of extremists with the entire concept of religion. This sounds more like Hitchen's kind of an argument, which is fine for entertainment purposes but it is reductive and prevents us from having interesting philosophical discussions regarding God and religion.
Re:Is everything falling apart? by judahmeek on Saturday April 30, 2022 @02:34PM (#31218108)
Philosophy has no practical value, except for contrarians who don't want to admit being wrong.

History does though & the history of religion is that extremists who are religiously exclusive are much more likely to affect someone else's life due to their zealotry.

That why there are so many wars & crimes linked to religious exclusion.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by mensetmanusman on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:31PM (#31227452)
“Philosophy has no practical value”

This is a philosophical statement.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by quantum_magpie on Saturday April 30, 2022 @12:28AM (#31213340)
Believers are also encouraged to go their local cult leader instead of seeking professional help, so they are not included in these statistics.
Re:Is everything falling apart? by mensetmanusman on Friday April 29, 2022 @03:44PM (#31209796)
“ but that doesn't make it worthwhile “

From where cometh this objective truth? :)

Re:Is everything falling apart? by judahmeek on Saturday April 30, 2022 @02:39PM (#31218149)
There's nothing objective about "worth" & you obviously know that.

This subjective truth, however, comes from my value for integrity, which you apparently lack.

If you have no moral qualms about having a worldview based on lies, then more power to you.

Re:Is everything falling apart? by 22122 on Friday April 29, 2022 @04:53PM (#31210471)
Corelation does not imply causation. Maybe its that people who are prone to depression have some factors that make them less likely to believe in religion.