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Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by pdimitar on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:24AM (#31040605)
I absolutely want to learn VIM but saying it's only a weekend is plain misinformation. We're definitely looking at months of gradually building new habits.
Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by camgunz on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:34AM (#31041365)
Agree, and I would add that it's not just habits, it's committing to rearchitecting your workflow. Do you use things like debuggers, linters, refactoring tools, project management tools, etc.? Get ready to learn totally different tools (usually)!

I'm a committed (neo)vim user, but I readily admit I only got over the hump because I thought it was cool and hardcore and typing is easy for me. There's no question it's been worth it for me, and I would argue it's probably worth it for most people and better for the software ecosystem as a whole (GUI tools don't compose), but still I think trying to say one's better than the other is too narrow a view.

Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by lawn on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:42AM (#31041484)
I think the difference between your and the other opinion is what does "learn vim" mean?

Is it enough to know how to enter insert mode, make an edit, then save and quit? That's easy enough to learn in a weekend.

Or is it learn how to edit efficiently using the various vim commands? That will indeed take much longer than a weekend.

(Even getting it configured just the way you want to will probably take more than a weekend...)

Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by pdimitar on Friday April 15, 2022 @01:27PM (#31042955)
You're correct. I learned enough VIM to use it as my Git commit message editor. Beyond that... it's a journey as you said.
Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by oblio on Friday April 15, 2022 @03:34PM (#31044750)
> Is it enough to know how to enter insert mode, make an edit, then save and quit? That's easy enough to learn in a weekend.

That's Notepad level usage, you don't gain anything from it.

Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by OtomotO on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:30AM (#31040679)
I wouldn't say so.

The basics are very simple. You just get used to formulate a (weird) sentence of what you want to do in your head, abbreviate it and then learn (or configure) the buttons.

Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by pdimitar on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:32AM (#31040702)
The problem here is the "just" word. To you it's "just" (as in a day or two), to me it's "I have to learn to think in a new way and that will take a while".

Filter bubbles, dude. ;)

Re:Neovim 0.7 Released by OtomotO on Friday April 15, 2022 @10:54AM (#31040926)
True, I love to learn and especially learn new ways to think.

Everything is just a just for me ^^