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Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by yabones on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:09PM (#31018093)
What's a good Jira replacement? Redmine? Phabricator? OpenProject? Just leaving the jira server alone and hoping there's no new and exciting zero-days? One thing is clear, these guys are a bunch of cowboys who can't be trusted with any amount of data.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by 420official on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:46PM (#31018566)
I'm not at all familiar but a tweet linked from the OP and written by the author plugs https://linear.app/
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by linsomniac on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @11:50PM (#31023228)
Linear has offered free services to users impacted by Atlassian's outage through the end of the year. I took a look at it (we aren't impacted), and notice it can import tickets from Jira, and also has a "Jira Link" where you can use Linear as a kind of front-end to Jira if you aren't ready to go all in on Jira.

When we chose Jira, one of the points that was made was: If we decide to leave Jira, there will almost certainly be an importer from Jira to the new system. Which does seem to be true. We came to Jira from Fogbugz, and I spent the better part of a month writing tools to import our tickets and wikis. Jira had a Fogbugz importer, but it was horribly broken.

Looking at Linear, there is no such escape hatch, or indeed, searching the docs I saw no "export" or "backup" capability at all.

Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by enra on Thursday April 14, 2022 @01:01AM (#31023563)
It's in the settings, "Import / Export" in the sidebar. We support CSV export or alternatively you can use the GraphQL API.

You're right we need add a page in the docs. It was only mentioned in few pages in passing. For now I added a section here until we can make a full page about it: https://linear.app/docs/workspaces#export-workspace-data

If you are looking anything else hit cmd+k to search the docs.

Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by linsomniac on Thursday April 14, 2022 @10:41AM (#31027632)
Thanks for the reply. Linear looks pretty slick, I'll probably give it a try with the Jira Link, and get some experience with it without having to do a whole conversion plus get buyin from the rest of the team. We weren't impacted by the Atlassian outage, but Linear does seem to have a pretty compelling feature-set.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by gkoberger on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:14PM (#31020368)
Linear is phenomenal. Probably built for a different audience than Jira (it's like Superhuman for tickets), but if you want something that works well and is opinionated I highly highly recommend it.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by astroalex on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:29PM (#31022823)
I recently started using Linear at my new job, and I am a big fan.

1. It's snappy. Moving between issues and views is a breeze.

2. The UI is extremely functional and consistent.

3. Great keyboard shortcuts!

Using Jira felt like having brain fog, and Linear is such a relief after that experience.

Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by bloopernova on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:15PM (#31020379)
Linear has a dark mode. I'm already won over! ;)
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by elxr on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:09PM (#31020317)
If you're hosting your code on GitHub, then GitHub projects is definitely worth using.

Does everything I used to use Jira for, but feels more modern and lightweight. Also, it has dark mode.

Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by histriosum on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @03:19PM (#31018987)
I've used Request Tracker for years. It's not pretty, it's written in Perl, but I can fairly easily make it do all the ticket tracking flows I care about and it just runs and runs and runs. My scale is admittedly small, but I put tens of thousands of tickets per year through my instance, and i basically never have to touch it unless I'm setting up a new queue or different flow for something.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by beardbound on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @06:05PM (#31020881)
Wow, I’ve never seen anyone mention RT here. I used it for years when I was working IT for my university while in undergrad. It worked pretty well. It didn’t have a lot of features but it allowed clients/customers to respond to tickets via email which was pretty cool at the time (late 00s). It also ran pretty fast on the terrible servers we had it on.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by secabeen on Friday April 15, 2022 @11:46AM (#31041535)
We still run it today; they had a major release last year, I think. Its key feature is that it remains email-first. Customers never interface with the website, for them it's all just like they're emailing a human, with some extra tooling and tracking on top.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by takeitaussie on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @09:57PM (#31022614)
Gitea is nice. It's a self-hosted Github-like. Not sure how well it scales to big teams and projects though. Probably can't be worse than Jira...
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by dimgl on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @10:37PM (#31022878)
I've used Linear and Shortcut (formerly Clubhouse). I was a huge Shortcut proponent, but there were a couple of concepts that weren't fully fleshed out.

Linear has none of these issues. I've been super impressed with it.

Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by _dark_matter_ on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:53PM (#31018658)
Bugzilla
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by nicoburns on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:43PM (#31020669)
We switched from JIRA to Shortcut https://shortcut.com/ (formerly Clubhouse), and I'd highly recommend them. It's much better than JIRA ever was, both from a UX perspective and an implementation/performance perspective.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by jamesfinlayson on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:29PM (#31022022)
I used to use Clubhouse and moving a ticket between columns was so snappy. With Jira it is a long wait.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by kitsune_ on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @05:15PM (#31020378)
Gitlab would be enough for engineering teams
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by closeparen on Thursday April 14, 2022 @01:13PM (#31029968)
I loved Phabricator but it's end of life. https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by originalvichy on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:35PM (#31018445)
For pure engineering teams it’s either Gitlab or Azure Devops. Those are the most common competitors I hear about. If you have non-engineers the choice gets trickier.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by dzikimarian on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @02:43PM (#31018536)
I'm on the same boat. Currently best choice seems to be youtrack, which has reasonable licensing model for self hosted option.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by astura on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @08:57PM (#31022213)
I haven't seen Trac mentioned yet.
Re:Inside the longest Atlassian outage by cerved on Wednesday April 13, 2022 @07:32PM (#31021614)
kernel.org