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Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by searls on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @03:38PM (#30770488)
Important to note that this is a 110dpi monitor and therefore not retina nor suitable for integer resolution scaling, whereas the Studio Display is 218dpi. I care a lot more about resolution and dot pitch than about frame rates higher than 60hz
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by noahtallen on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @03:50PM (#30770622)
That’s fair, but the overall point is that Apple could have added a standard connector (normal Display Port) without sacrificing quality.
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by jolux on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @04:25PM (#30771052)
Thunderbolt 4 is a standard interface, and it supports DisplayPort 1.4 as well as 2.0.
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by noahtallen on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @10:44PM (#30774270)
That’s a good point — what I meant was that the DP connector found on graphics cards is pretty common (“standard”), so should be included. As a frame of reference, a similarly priced monitor I have has 2x HDMI, DisplayPort, thunderbolt 3, and a few USB A ports if you use it as a thunderbolt hub. And it’s a 144hz ultrawide with HDR support.

And while I acknowledge that Apple made a trade off for pixel density, they weren’t forced to make tradeoffs for other features that are common on high end monitors.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by jolux on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @01:00AM (#30775127)
> the DP connector found on graphics cards is pretty common (“standard”)

So are D-sub connectors and HDMI. Should it have those as well? What about S-Video? Composite?

> they weren’t forced to make tradeoffs for other features that are common on high end monitors

They don't sell any products with DisplayPort connectors, nor do I think they've ever done so (certainly not recently). Selling a product with that connector is a commitment on some level to supporting what people plug into it, and as demonstrated by the OP, PCs are not really supported. It's also more engineering effort, but that's probably marginal.

This is a standard connector with cheap cables that adapt it to legacy devices using the DP alternate mode of USB-C. Apple are known for getting rid of legacy connectors. USB-C is a superior technology, it's only a matter of time before it's used for everything, and I appreciate Apple's efforts to hasten that day.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by fckgw on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @04:24PM (#30771032)
Why would Apple add a connector that none of their computers use?
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by function_seven on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @04:31PM (#30771113)
So people like me would consider buying it.

I have a Mac. I also have a work-issued PC. I have both machines connected to the same displays, and switch between them.

DisplayPort isn't some obsolete technology here. I understand why this display doesn't have HDMI, or DVI, or VGA, or Composite, or S-Video, etc. But DisplayPort would be nice.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by gumby on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @04:55PM (#30771414)
> DisplayPort isn't some obsolete technology here...DisplayPort would be nice.

Type C is one of the standard interfaces for the Displayport standard, and Displayport is the standard video transport on a thunderbolt cable.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by technobabbler on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @12:09AM (#30774841)
...so, wait, DisplayPort is really more like DisplayProtocol, but there's also a physical port called DisplayPort? :(
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by ThreePinkApples on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @05:55AM (#30776784)
That's how data cables/ports work. There is a DisplayPort "protocol", then there are DisplayPort physical connectors and cables. Then there are other types of physical connectors and cables that also can be used with DisplayPort "protocol". Same thing for USB, or HDMI etc.

Yes, it's confusing. But it's also a good thing as you can carry lots of stuff over the same cable and connector. A USB-C type cable and connector can carry USB, Thunderbolt, DisplayPort, HDMI, even analogue audio.

Before USB-C, Thunderbolt was using mini-DisplaPort connector and cables.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by technobabbler on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @12:07AM (#30774824)
I don't think Apple really wants you to buy their monitor for use on a PC. It's just a support headache, between the cables and graphics cards and refresh rates and gamma and such.

Everything on the product page suggests it was only designed for Mac: https://www.apple.com/studio-display/

That it happens to work on a PC at all is, I guess, an unintentional side effect that they'd rather not even acknowledge. You can try it unsupported but it's not their problem...

They've never been good at supporting standards not invented there. Hell, ever tried to use a Magic Mouse with a PC? Everything about it feels completely off. Part of me wonders if subtle incompatibilities, where hardware works 80% of the way, is maybe even part of their deliberate strategy to introduce small headaches to the PC experience to frustrate you into switching.

(Of course OSX has its own share of frustrations too, but nothing like using PC hardware on a Mac or vice versa).

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by stanmancan on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @04:40PM (#30771223)
Apple hasn't been in the business of selling you things to use on non-Apple devices for a very... very long time.
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by manicdee on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @06:01PM (#30772141)
Same reason Dell adds USB-C, DP, HDMI to their monitors: so you can use their product in preference to someone else’s.

Buy the Apple monitor, be impressed, buy the Studio to go with it.

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by hbn on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @05:31PM (#30771826)
I have one and somehow managed to get it into a mode where the UI was an appropriate size and it ran at 120Hz. Worked perfectly for almost a year, then I updated to Monterey and cannot for the life of me get it to run in HiDPI mode at my old preferred scaling. Tried all the third party monitor controlling apps (EasyRes doesn't have the scaling I'd like in the HiDPI list of resolutions)

I might just get rid of the monitor. I'm not convinced I loved it for my workflow anyway compared to 2 monitors where I can switch my Mac workspaces independently

Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by account42 on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @09:50AM (#30778442)
110dpi can work without any scaling depending on your eyesight.
Re:Connecting a gaming PC to Apple Studio Display by alwillis on Tuesday March 22, 2022 @08:56PM (#30773583)
Yes—give me the resolution vs refresh rate if I have to pick.