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Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by Melatonic on Thursday March 17, 2022 @06:17PM (#30716492)
Those 2015 processors were some damn good processors though - at that point they were quite far ahead. I haven't counted Intel out of the game just yet like many here seem to - they have definitely hit a stumble though for sure.
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by carlmr on Thursday March 17, 2022 @08:50PM (#30717492)
Big companies have to stumble to see actual change. I also think they're going to recover from this. But it's going to take some time.
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by chii on Thursday March 17, 2022 @11:14PM (#30718407)
It's a risky bet to say intel is going to recover imho. A lot of good engineering talents have left intel. I dunno if they are capable of rehiring back those people. I suppose the new CEO is going to help.

Not many companies recover like this. Microsoft is one notable exception - and they recovered because they have a huge cash cow, and that gives them a tonne of runway.

Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by ksec on Friday March 18, 2022 @01:25AM (#30719003)
>and they recovered because they have a huge cash cow

Intel also have huge cash cows in x86 market, for at least another 5 - 8 years.

Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by mhh__ on Friday March 18, 2022 @06:54AM (#30720585)
The 12000 series has already bought intel a lot of breathing room. It's outperforming AMD on gaming workloads at a lower price point, AMD have recognized this and lowered their prices.
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by idonotknowwhy on Friday March 18, 2022 @01:16AM (#30718962)
AMD recovered well. As long as they don't do a Nokia / Elop they have a shot imo
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by hnaccount_rng on Friday March 18, 2022 @02:59AM (#30719345)
AMD also recovered because they couldn't be killed, as Intel was never going to be allowed becoming a single source for x86. I.e. the US military said: We need more than one company doing the processors we need. Not sure if the same is true for Intel today. There are multiple providers for sufficiently powerful processors and from an enduser perspective the actual architecture doesn't matter much. I.e. it's far simpler to repurpose any other source today than it was 20 years ago.
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by pjmlp on Friday March 18, 2022 @05:39AM (#30720162)
Nokia also recovered, not only they own UNIX birthplace, the Android phones using their branding are actually the few Android ones that get proper updates.

However hiring Elop, with the contract bonus clause to sell Nokia Mobile, was a really dumb move.

Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by emodendroket on Friday March 18, 2022 @01:40AM (#30719063)
You can always hire more people; my concern would more be the huge lead time required to actually bring a process to market
Re:Intel financialized and lost leadership in semiconductor ... by inamberclad on Friday March 18, 2022 @04:44PM (#30727272)
My 2014 era i5-4670k is still running happy at 4.2ish GHz. Nothing really beats it without adding more cores.