Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by dhdjjd on Sunday March 13, 2022 @01:29PM
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It has been all over the news, so it won't sabotage anything. Most elderly people from the south-east of Ukraine wouldn't be able to pronounce it as well as they mostly have a very spotty command of Ukrainian.
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by shawabawa3 on Sunday March 13, 2022 @01:45PM
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Apparently even Russian speaking Ukrainians can usually pronounce it as it's a bread commonly eaten at some Ukrainian holiday (source is some random Reddit comment so take with a grain of salt)
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by dhdjjd on Sunday March 13, 2022 @01:54PM
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I suppose I must have been wrong about generalising it to "most elderly people", but my Granny who had lived in Donbas for 40 years doesn't know about it.
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by joeman1000 on Monday March 14, 2022 @07:42AM
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It means 'lighter', like a cigarette lighter.
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by vxNsr on Sunday March 13, 2022 @01:42PM
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Wow that’s another real world use of the eponymous shibboleth
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by tough on Sunday March 13, 2022 @02:08PM
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Yeah I learned about shibboleth here in HN, remember reading about Spanish using pork/ham foods as it's own shibboleth-like device. And how some portuguese butchers offered vegan kosher options to the travellers that wanted to not stand out in a cantina, hahaha
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by vxNsr on Sunday March 13, 2022 @09:24PM
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I learned about it like I’m sure many did from The West Wing.
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by shmobot on Monday March 14, 2022 @12:24AM
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Oh, don't worry, it has been the shibboleth word for many years way before this invasion. The beauty here that even if you know the word it is somewhat hard for a person to learn and remember how to pronounce it. I've tried to teach a couple of my non ukrainian friends for many years, they rarely get it nearly right and cannot repeat consistently.
Besides there a few backup words like this, if you need to verify.
Re:What the Russian Invasion Has Done to Ukraine
by joeman1000 on Monday March 14, 2022 @07:41AM
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Nah it's a very common meme throughout telegram. Has been since the first couple of days of the war. Russians just cannot say it the same. They have the same word, but it means 'strawberries', and it's pronounced differently. It's a classic shibboleth.
Ugh. That sounds like the author revealing confidential info, that could potentially allow saboteurs to pass by checkpoints. :(