Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by _ph_ on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:02AM
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Too bad it couldn't been moved before the war. From an aviation perspective a sad loss, but it pales compared to all the human tragedy happening right now. Most of all, saving and restoring Ukraine as a country should be the focus and who knows, there might be some push to rebuild it as a symbol, perhaps upgraded with modern technology. May be even a bit larger with some mordern engines :)
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by nuccy on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:17AM
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The shelling of Ukrainian cities with missiles started right after Putin finished his speech at about 5:00 am local. Starting and ramping up the engines of Mriya might take time plus pilots are also likely living some distance away, plus fueling, plus flight plan, et al. Well... noone could imagine that a civil plane will be the explicit target.. and noone expected such a turn of history and all the non-millitary directed violance and destruction of civil building and infrastructure done by Russian army.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by _Tev on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:22AM
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The phrasing does not read like a solid confirmation to me:
> This was the world’s largest aircraft, AN-225 ‘Mriya’ (‘Dream’ in Ukrainian). Russia may have destroyed our ‘Mriya’. But they will never be able to destroy our dream of a strong, free and democratic European state. We shall prevail!
Sounds more like some inspirational message, using the rumors of plane's destruction.
EDIT: tweets by Antonov with more reserved wording:
From Antonov Company:
"Update on the information of #AN225 "Mriya" aircraft: Currently, until the AN-225 has been inspected by experts, we cannot report on the technical condition of the aircraft.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by paulgb on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:52AM
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Tangential question, but I figure the people who might know the answer would be in this thread.
Two days ago, there was news about two II-76s being shot down[1]. A US senator (Rubio) even seemed to imply it[2]. Since then, I haven't seen anything about it. Is there any indication that this did/didn't happen?
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by Aeolun on Sunday February 27, 2022 @12:11PM
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I’m fairly certain the Ukrainian government confirmed they did (sorry, not sure of the source), with russian 240 casualties as a result, but whether or not that’s propaganda, fog of war, or the truth is not clear to me.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by varjag on Sunday February 27, 2022 @02:34PM
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Frankly with the colossal amount of video footage documenting Russia's other air and land losses there's very little incentive for Ukrainian government to make that up.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by shmobot on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:29AM
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What a pity, such a beautiful bird, my dad used to work in Antonov Bureau and she was a great pride for him and for all the ukrainian people.
Her Ukrainian name is "Dream" btw.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by freudian123 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @09:50AM
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It's a shame it got destroyed, a beautiful piece of machinery.
I don't think the company will ever rebuilt it, they already were hesitant on building another AN-225 due to cost concerns.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by freudian123 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:21AM
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They could but I don't think it will be financially practical for an Aerospace company to set up a manufacturing line to just to manufacture 1 or 2 of the 225's.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by p_l on Sunday February 27, 2022 @08:58PM
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The design is also very unique due to requirements that were put for it. Pretty much no one put similar equipment, and it's a wonder that it was "un-mothballed" at all and put itself on map again.
It was crucial for both commercial and humanitarian efforts, but no bean counter would approve building such design normally.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by baybal2 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:25AM
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> they already were hesitant on building another AN-225 due to cost concerns.
Very astutely note. EU was trying to block Ukrainian defence industry for decades. They had a cargo plane design which beaten Airbus 400 on 33 out 34 tender points on EU defence tender, and still lost.
Re:An-225 destruction image analysis
by nuccy on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:45AM
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I've been once near Mriya during an airshow in Gostomel, at that time (2008) it didn't yet have a ukrainian-flag-coloured stripes on its fuselage. Since I use that photo for an avatar, I always wanted to see it again and update it, but then Covid happened and now this...
https://mobile.twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1497947370008...
Edit: official confirmation from Ukraine’s primary account
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ukraine/status/149796151448090214...
> This was the world’s largest aircraft, AN-225 ‘Mriya’ (‘Dream’ in Ukrainian). Russia may have destroyed our ‘Mriya’. But they will never be able to destroy our dream of a strong, free and democratic European state. We shall prevail!
Sounds more like some inspirational message, using the rumors of plane's destruction.
EDIT: tweets by Antonov with more reserved wording:
https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/149790352542613094...
https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/149796783633704140...
@Dang can you please change the title and the link?
https://www.aeroinside.com/16738/antonov-an-225-at-kyiv-host...
From Antonov Company: "Update on the information of #AN225 "Mriya" aircraft: Currently, until the AN-225 has been inspected by experts, we cannot report on the technical condition of the aircraft.
Stay tuned for further official announcement."
Two days ago, there was news about two II-76s being shot down[1]. A US senator (Rubio) even seemed to imply it[2]. Since then, I haven't seen anything about it. Is there any indication that this did/didn't happen?
[1] https://twitter.com/rgilliescanada/status/149742872547813376...
[2] https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1497348285333389313
It was crucial for both commercial and humanitarian efforts, but no bean counter would approve building such design normally.
Very astutely note. EU was trying to block Ukrainian defence industry for decades. They had a cargo plane design which beaten Airbus 400 on 33 out 34 tender points on EU defence tender, and still lost.
never going to forget how big it looks in the sky