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Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by k8sToGo on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @01:37AM (#30343474)
I was wondering, how do you sell a company? It's not like there is an eBay or craigslist for companies, right?
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by awb on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @10:47AM (#30348008)
I hired a broker. Paid them no upfront fee, just a % of the sale. Maybe it was around 5%?

I had meetings with potential buyers and received a LOI (letter of intent) at a price I was comfortable with.

After that came 6 or 7 months of due diligence! I wasn’t expecting the process to last that long, but the buyer took time to interview my employees and secure a loan. At the end of each month I’d have to update my complete financial statements and the buyer would have to review them and they’d get submitted to the loan application.

Finally, the sale closed and I received a wire transfer.

I stayed on working for free (or maybe minimum wage?) FT for about a month, then part time for another month or two, and then finally on call for 1hr/week but no official office hours for another few months, just to make sure all the operations and handoff went smoothly. 6mo after the close I was officially done.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by berkes on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:34AM (#30343763)
John Warrillow’s book Built to Sell has some good advise.

My main takeaway: first ensure the company is optimised for sellability.

And your question is answered too: agents. There are people and companies specialized in selling companies. Just like there are people specialized in buying companies.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by philsnow on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:39AM (#30344100)
> first ensure the company is optimised for sellability

there are a lot of things you can do easily early on but become very hard later:

  - ensure the culture of the company doesn't require you to be there for it to function
  - make sure your incorporation structure is amenable to selling easily
  - separate out the accounts (both bank account and SaaS/PaaS/Iaas accounts) from day one, separate from any of your other projects
the Warrillow book goes into far more breadth and depth than this comment, but I just wanted to highlight that there are strong reasons to act now to shape things in a way that make it easy to sell, even if you don't currently intend to sell. being prepared to sell at any given time increases optionality / makes it so that in case you suddenly _need_ to sell, you don't have to put in 6 months of work before you can even put the thing up for sale.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by herodoturtle on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:33AM (#30345603)
> John Warrillow’s book Built to Sell has some good advise.

Just want to second this.

I've read several books on this topic. Warrillow's is easily the best.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by colordrops on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @01:53AM (#30343558)
I think there is a website for selling small companies, "micro" something or another. Can't recall the site at the moment though.

edit: https://microacquire.com/

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by smt88 on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @01:45AM (#30343513)
There are several, including Flippa: https://flippa.com
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by cpach on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:03AM (#30343604)
FE International is another one: https://feinternational.com/
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by DyslexicAtheist on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:05AM (#30343918)
not OP but fwiw.

It sounds planned in hindsight but it was pure luck. None of us had any idea how to do it. The reason luck was in our favor was because it wasn't a 1-man show, our location, aiming our communications not just at customers but always keep in mind our competitors and potential investors will (and should) hear us too.

We started eating our competitors lunch so they did have no choice but to take an interest. First we were an annoyance a few years later we had offers to discuss, then it became once or twice a year. We took every opportunity to engage but only for getting to know them but didn't take it further.

We were very visible because there were 3 of us in 3 different countries "making lot of noise" about our product.

Also timing wasn't good yet (why sell today when you know you'll be worth 5x in 2 years).

We went for ~5 years without considering selling and always positioned ourselves to eventually sell from the day we founded the business. If you think about selling when you're just starting, you end up constantly thinking if the company can be easily understood by an auditor and explained to an interested party.

We (3 partners) were already present in 3 countries/sites from the beginning so there was potential of messy "organic growth". And the only way to fix this do this was with a holding company.

- holding company to keep things simple and easy to explain and audit, e.g.:

- No difference in the contracts with our individual CEO's / sites that have to be negotiated individually when the company is acquired/sold

- an investor that takes over the holding has the keys to the kingdom

- all important negotiations done in the holding

The holding also made sense because it allowed us a presence in a 4th jurisdiction that is known to have a high density of investors and none of us would feel the main site is in one of the 3 jurisdictions that the partners were. So it kept things neutral.

Another thing we did right was never touch things we weren't experts in at least not until we had the first hire to move this forward internally, so we hired one of the big 4 to help with controlling & finance.

We had lots of internal bickering, I hated the idea of all this complexity with the holding, and the whole thing almost went tits-up before we even started. But implementing a holding within the first few months was the single most important decision for us. We might have gotten lucky without but not for the same returns.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by mbesto on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:32AM (#30346127)
Also sold a business of similar size to the parent. Basically if you're sub $1M revenue and not growing massively, then the broker websites are good solutions. Anything else, most businesses will be sold via investment bankers, an acquirer will come out an seek you, or you reach directly out to a potential acquirer.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by usefulcat on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @09:43AM (#30347028)
One approach is to find someone (or a few people) who are well connected in the space you're in and offer them a percentage of the sale if you close a deal with a buyer they've introduced you to. AIUI, 5-10% seems fairly typical, at least for a smaller company. Obviously you'd want to have a signed, written agreement in place with any such intermediaries.
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by weird-eye-issue on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:13AM (#30343648)
I've personally bought businesses on both empireflippers.com and investors.club
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by sedeki on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:06AM (#30343924)
I have thought about the same, but over time I've started telling myself that these people (the sellers) just want an exit (e.g. because the market is falling apart), regardless of what reason they give.

I have only looked around in guest mode/logged out and haven't paid or anything to actually speak to the seller and get a fuller picture.

Are you happy with your purchases so far? What advice can you give me as a person that has a similar plan?

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by weird-eye-issue on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @07:26AM (#30345553)
There are lots of reasons to exit and yeah you can't fully trust the seller when it comes to that.

Lots of people simply like to jump from project to project so being able to exit a business is great for them. Other people are retiring or get sick. Sometimes the business plateaus and they have owned it for several years and are tired of planning more articles for that niche. Some built it recently for the purpose of selling and it has terribly quality content and will likely tank in traffic in the next 12 months.

You also can't trust the seller when they say how many hours they work or believe they account for all their expenses (which is sort of a joke for content businesses anyways because almost all the expenses are added back in when accounting for the sale price anyways).

But for the type of businesses on there it doesn't really matter what the seller says, most of it is noise.

You can get all the insight you need into a content business using Google Search Console, Google Analytics, Ahrefs, and manually looking at it.

I built a content site from scratch for ~1 year before buying any and was looking at ones for sale during that time so by the time I went to pull the trigger I was "relatively sophisticated". Actually I only bought them in the last few months but so far so good, everything has been as expected. I'm strategically merging them into a single larger site and that is going well (one already successfully merged but waiting for ad network approval for the second)

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by sideproject on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @05:18AM (#30344733)
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by charcircuit on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @02:00AM (#30343589)
>It's not like there is an eBay or craigslist for companies, right?

There's a few of these sites. Just search for them.

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by paradite on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @01:50AM (#30343542)
Justin Kan (co-founder of Twitch) said he sold his startup on eBay: https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c2484200...

And there is also https://microacquire.com/

Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by folli on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:52AM (#30344533)
What the hell did I just witness here? An NFT instructional video?
Re:Ask HN: What made your business take off that you wish yo... by paradite on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @05:01AM (#30344609)
I am also a bit shocked to see the first Google search result for "Twitch Justin ebay sell" was this link to opensea. Looks like they did good SEO.

Also there was a lot of promotion on Twitter: https://twitter.com/justinkan/status/1396904507871793154