Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by makx on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:59PM
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You'd think that there are even qualified people who would do it for (almost) free, just for the chance of building a resume...
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by jonassalen on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:12PM
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As a professional that gets offers like this ("it will be good for your portfolio") I hate this comment.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by sirwhinesalot on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:17PM
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Apparently you get monkeys if you pay millions too...
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by mitchdoogle on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:31PM
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Well it's the market rate, right?
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by selfhoster11 on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:43PM
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That's because you're looking at this with your "professional" hat on. If your look at this with your "philanthropist" hat on, the optics are suddenly very different.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by GekkePrutser on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:41PM
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Almost everyone in business has an MBA so that qualification is pretty easy to get.
The passion they need is a lot harder.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by WJW on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:12PM
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There's a weird type of logic going on where almost everyone who would be willing to do it for almost free is probably not qualified for the job. Would you really stake the future of your foundation on someone who still needs to build their resume?
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by mitchdoogle on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:30PM
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$2.5 million per year is in the top 0.1% of income in the United States. No matter how you shake it, whether you want people with management experience, tech experience, browser experience, or some combination thereof, you will find a significantly large number who would be able to do the job, do it well, and make more than their current salary.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by stjohnswarts on Monday February 14, 2022 @06:09PM
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I bet any mid level tech manager from a large company (who loves open source) would do a much better job and work for 1/4 her salary until he proved he was worth her old salary and raised the tides of success for the company.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by tbihl on Monday February 14, 2022 @08:50PM
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You could make this same argument about professional athletes, but all across the world no one seems to follow through on this obvious money-saving hack. So I presume it's more complicated than you're suggesting.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by jeltz on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:45AM
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Many peofessional athletes are not well paid at all so I am not sure I get your point.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by 2muchcoffeeman on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:59PM
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Japanese CEO salaries are famously very low. The Toyota CEO makes about USD 3.5m. There are other C levels that make 3 times what the Toyota CEO earns in direct compensation.
Japanese CEO salaries in general seem to be below USD1m on average.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by krageon on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:19AM
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> Japanese CEO salaries are famously very low. The Toyota CEO makes about USD 3.5m
I'm genuinely curious: Do you not see how insane it is that you believe this is low? Earning even a tenth of that would be stratospherically high.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by GekkePrutser on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @08:45PM
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Toyota is a huge company though. It's nothing like Mozilla. I would imagine there's a lot of responsibility riding on it. And I'd imagine that in Japanese culture badly performing CEOs actually face consequences.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by 2muchcoffeeman on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:31PM
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It’s all relative. Compared to their western counterparts, these numbers are low.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by aeze on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @03:24AM
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Those numbers seem so much saner than the US.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by mcv on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @06:34AM
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Still insane, though. Nobody needs that kind of pay. This is not supply and demand, this is the executive class enriching themselves.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by tornato7 on Thursday February 17, 2022 @01:04PM
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I disagree, if you're a company raking in $270B a year in revenue, you want the absolute best running it. The Toyota CEO is like 0.001% of the revenue, an extremely small price to pay for the right management.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by Dylan16807 on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:28PM
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I don't believe that for a second. Unless you just mean it in the sense of "90% of people that apply to a job aren't good at it". You can get many many qualified people for $250k.
Paying more doesn't get rid of the risk, so yes do the version that has risk but without the bonfire of cash.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by soco on Tuesday February 15, 2022 @04:22AM
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We can show with good data that the actual CEO is not qualified either for this job. So why not getting somebody unqualified but cheaper?
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by Jensson on Monday February 14, 2022 @03:54PM
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Do nonprofits really care about the market? Not sure how that works, what would it take to replace her if she doesn't want to be replaced?
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by jonassalen on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:13PM
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The professionals that work in those nonprofits do. If you want a capable manager or SEO, you need to pay a correct market price.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by selfhoster11 on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:40PM
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If I cared badly enough about the mission and it wasn't a for-profit enterprise, I'd take the pay cut. The non-monetary part of my compensation (the feel-good factor and the actual good done in the world that I can't get in a for-profit enterprise) would more than make up for it, at least for a couple of years.
Re:Ask HN: Why is Firefox losing marketshare and how would y...
by mitchdoogle on Monday February 14, 2022 @04:34PM
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Market rates don't matter all that much if the person setting them has a significant influence on what they are. It's like a child determining their allowance based on which one of their friends was able to grab the most money from their mom's purse.
I can't do much worse than losing 85% market share.