Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by ramphastidae on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:23AM
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Expecting minimum wage to track inflation is not mismanaged expectations, it’s a basic part of the social and societal contract. Don’t blame workers in the world’s richest country for being unhappy with a measly $7 rise in minimum wage in 84 years.
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Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by didgeoridoo on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:11AM
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The federal minimum wage has increased by approximately 2,400% since its inception, nearly double the rate of inflation.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by tenuousemphasis on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:57AM
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Ok great, how about for the people of current working generations? The purchasing power of the minimum wage peaked in 1970. And that's using the official inflation data, which means the real purchasing power is even lower.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_Sta...
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by missedthecue on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:46PM
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The thing missing from this is that no one pays $7.25 any more, even though it is technically the minimum wage. Take it from me, someone who has an entry level job (customer service).
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by willcipriano on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:43PM
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The minimum wage is now well under the natural wage floor. In most populated areas $15 an hour is old news, you have to pay $18-$20 if you want someone to show up. Setting a new minimum wage that is still below the natural wage floor won't have much of a effect. It's the sort of policy that feels good but in practice doesn't do much.
Now track it against cost of living.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by didgeoridoo on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:29PM
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When people talk about “inflation” they are talking about the CPI, which represents “cost of living” (food, energy, shelter, etc.) Is there a better “cost of living” metric out there? Would love to know if so.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by throwawayl44 on Thursday January 27, 2022 @05:51PM
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It's UK, but check these out.
https://twitter.com/BootstrapCook/status/1483778776697909252
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/26/terry-pratchet...
Their ONS agreed to make changes.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by staticman2 on Thursday January 27, 2022 @11:58AM
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Why would you write "2400%" unless you were trying to mislead people?
It's like saying I traveled 1,609,344 millimeters because it sounds like more distance than saying than I traveled 1 mile.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by didgeoridoo on Thursday January 27, 2022 @12:23PM
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Is “24x” better for you? The claim was that inflation has outstripped the rise in minimum wage. That claim was incorrect. Minimum wage has approximately doubled the inflation rate. It doesn’t matter how you write it.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by cuteboy19 on Thursday January 27, 2022 @02:34PM
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Curious, increased by 2400% always felt like 25x to me. For example if we said increased by 50% then no one would think twice about 1.5x
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by bart_spoon on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:21PM
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Increase measured as a percentage is commonplace.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by missedthecue on Thursday January 27, 2022 @01:44PM
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I would say "raised by a measly $7" is far more misleading than percentage terms.
Re:The rise of the anti-work movement
by Gravityloss on Thursday January 27, 2022 @10:56AM
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Well that's a different statement from the original and I do agree it's a problem worth discussing.