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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by neuronic on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:31PM (#29881824)
How is it so hard for you people to understand that we shut down society because the health system is stressed at unforeseen levels? I mean just ask your fellow emergency workers how their life is right now.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by rajup on Monday January 10, 2022 @03:45PM (#29882105)
Stressed by the numerous asymptomatic hypochondriacs you mean? [1]

I have no idea what these asymptomatic folks are wasting hospital resources for

[1] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-cases-t...

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by runako on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:00PM (#29882359)
The major hospitals in my (Top 10 American) metro area are currently doing patient "diversion." In practice, this means that they are not accepting most trauma patients, elective surgeries like cancer removals are being delayed, and patient care for non-Covid conditions is being impacted. This is primarily due to the hospitals being at/over capacity. These hospitals are not admitting hypochondriacs, the folks taking up the beds are sick and need to be hospitalized.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by rajup on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:54PM (#29901308)
Which in turn is most likely due to bad policy rather than severe disease, e.g.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/COVID-San-Francisco-s...

I wonder if an irrational fear of COVID makes people lose all critical thinking skills.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by runako on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @01:11PM (#29910656)
Much of that article is about places with high vaccination rates. The experts quoted repeat that caveat a few times.

I do not live in a state or metro with high vaccination rates.

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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by BTCOG on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:53PM (#29883212)
Uh, it factually is a coronavirus, of which several are already endemic "colds," and within another year or two (or so) we are looking at this also becoming "just another cold." This is the meaning of currently talking about the virus becoming endemic. It's here to stay like our other colds that should be added, were also deadly when they first started.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by neuronic on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @06:55AM (#29890418)
Uhh it factually causes hospital and ICU intervention in 15% of the cases. Maybe with Omicron we get a bit luckier but that’s just chance and not predictable evolution.

It’s not just a cold. You’re quite obviously not a virologist or epidemiologist so stop acting smarter than you are about this topic and listen to experts who actually know their field.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by nradov on Tuesday January 11, 2022 @08:35AM (#29891269)
Stop posting misinformation. The hospitalization rate is nowhere near 15%. The CDC estimated it at 5%.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burd...

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by jquery on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:51PM (#29883177)
For some reason anything about Covid attracts all the HN cranks. Or just reminds me that HN is full of cranks. The kind of crowd that would get upset at calling Jan 6 an insurrection.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by mardifoufs on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:03PM (#29883375)
The cranks are the people in this very thread who are saying they are okay with permanent masks and boosters. The fact is, the vaccines are here, and they work. People need to stop being antivax and asking everyone around them to lock down just because they can't understand that it's time to move on and stop doubting just how effective the vaccines really are because of a 0.0001% chance they might maybe not work for them very well.

What we are seeing right now is the same "pro vaxxers, pro science" types revealing their true face by not being willing to accept that the vaccine works and that the science is clear; omicron is mild, hospitalizations are fine, and that the virus is essentially harmless for kids. They are the equivalent of tinfoil wearers that "wear them just in case" aka cranks.

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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dang on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:40AM (#29902755)
You broke the site guidelines egregiously with this post, and have been repeatedly posting other flamewar comments too. We've had to ask you many times not to do that. I had to ask you about this fairly recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29190706.

If you keep it up, we're going to have to ban you. I don't want to do that so, regardless of how right you are or how strongly you feel, would you please stop?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dang on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:38AM (#29902745)
"Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community" (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), regardless of how much smarter or better you consider yourself. It's an extremely low-quality kind of comment, and evokes worse from others.

Not only that, but such generalizations are inevitably bogus, because people make them based on the data points they remember, and remember the ones they hate the most.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Edit: please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments generally. You've been doing that repeatedly lately, and it's not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29758975 was particularly egregious—you can't do that on this site, regardless of how right you are or feel you are.

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Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by dang on Wednesday January 12, 2022 @12:45AM (#29902783)
Please don't cross into personal attack or break the site guidelines, no matter how bad another comment is or you feel it is. It only makes everything worse.

Edit: you've unfortunately been doing this repeatedly. Comments like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29882588 are not ok. No more of this, please.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by astrange on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:24PM (#29882788)
It's not "asymptomatic hypochondriacs". "Hospitalized with no symptoms" mean they're in the hospital for other reasons and just happened to test positive.

Although, even vaccinated people hospitalized "for covid" at the moment are mostly there for things like dehydration, similar to the flu.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by BTCOG on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:18PM (#29882694)
Just ask my close emergency worker friends and family? They're mostly unwilling to get vaccinated, understand this more than yourself, and they think it's endemic and pointless to get the vaccine. They usually bring up the fact they all have MRSA in their noses and on all their surfaces all day long and they'll get over it. They've all had COVID. Immunocompromised people will continue to die from pnuemonia, flus, etc regardless of impositions from society.
Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by Bhilai on Monday January 10, 2022 @04:54PM (#29883234)
> Just ask my close emergency worker friends and family? They're mostly unwilling to get vaccinated ...

What? My uncle (father's real brother) is a doctor and he is fully vaccinated and boosted. Two other cousins are doctors are vaccinated and boosted. My wife's side of family has several in nursing and administration staff at hospitals, all of them are boosted. Most of the hospitals these folks mentioned above are associated with have fully vaccinated staff.

Re:More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’ by nradov on Monday January 10, 2022 @05:22PM (#29883652)
There is a large variance in vaccination rates among different types of healthcare workers. Rates are high among physicians but lower among nurses and aides.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7030a2.htm