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Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by teluride5 on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:04PM (#29843284)
The fact is, this is how democracy works. Most Poles currently prefer this government to a neoliberal cesspool.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by gambiting on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:08PM (#29843340)
An authoritarian government elected democratically is still authoritarian.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by dahfizz on Friday January 07, 2022 @03:38PM (#29844495)
An authoritarian government elected democratically is still democratic. The whole point of democracy is that the people choose the government they want for themselves.
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Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by Jorengarenar on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:16PM (#29843444)
North Koreans wept when the previous dictator died. Is NK not authoritarian?

And from the closer neighborhood: Russia and Belarus

Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by gambiting on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:18PM (#29843463)
It's called Democratic Republic Of North Korea so of course not, it's in the name

/s

Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by gspr on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:50PM (#29843824)
How? By enacting the will of an authoritarian majority, of course.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by teluride5 on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:15PM (#29843432)
Calling it authoritarian is an opinion, which can be debated. The parent comment said the government was not democratic, which is false.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by pzduniak on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:19PM (#29843490)
It's not "most Poles". It's realistically a quarter, maybe a third of the population. Thankfully, the turnout increased from 51% in 2015 (when they won the absolute majority for the first time with 38%) to 68% in the second presidential election vote in 2020 (when they also won, but with a pretty slim margin).
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by Jorengarenar on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:11PM (#29843396)
>Most Poles currently prefer this government to a neoliberal cesspool.

Not really. They just don't hate it enough to unite against it.

Let's say that there are parties X, Y and Z.

30% of the population votes for X, 30% for Y and 40% for Z.

Now, even if followers of X and Y hate Z more than each other, the winner is still Z.

Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by dahfizz on Friday January 07, 2022 @03:46PM (#29844576)
> 30% of the population votes for X, 30% for Y and 40% for Z.

> Now, even if followers of X and Y hate Z more than each other, the winner is still Z.

In this situation, Z would not win a runoff election though. In 2020 The PiS candidate won the presidential election[1]. I think saying that most Poles prefer the current government is imprecise but still truthful, therefore.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Polish_presidential_elect...

Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by jobstijl on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:24PM (#29843538)
Not in a parliamentary system like they have in the Netherlands.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by tryptophan on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:30PM (#29843594)
Poland also has proportional representation. A 40% party will need to coalition with other parties if it wants to have enough votes to rule.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by pzduniak on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:35PM (#29843648)
Except votes for parties who get less than 5% (if running alone) or 8% of votes (if a Coalition) do not count. So that 40% becomes 52% and suddenly the only thing you can do as a minority party is yell.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by tryptophan on Friday January 07, 2022 @03:29PM (#29844356)
Rules like that aren't uncommon.

Netherlands is like the one exception that doesn't require parties to win >4-5% of the vote to get into parliament.

And all of these systems are more democratic than what the USA uses.

Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by caymanjim on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:33PM (#29843620)
You'll never know what most citizens prefer if you prevent or encumber opposition candidates.
Re:Ruling party figures say Poland has Pegasus spyware by okl on Friday January 07, 2022 @02:05PM (#29843294)
False dichotomy?