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Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by notpachet on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:20AM (#29824583)
From a Calvin & Hobbes strip:

[DAD] It used to be that if a client wanted something in a week, it was considered a rush job, and he was lucky to get it. Now, with modems, faxes, and car phones, everybody wants everything instantly! Improved technology just increases expectations. These machines don't make life easier -- they make like more harassed. If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently.

[CALVIN] Six minutes to microwave this?? Who's got that kind of time?!

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by ThinkingGuy on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:48AM (#29825922)
Or as Scott Adams expressed it in chapter 1 of "The Dilbert Future":

Good trend: Computers allow us to work 100% faster

Unexpected bad thing: Computers generate 300 percent more work

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by agumonkey on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:52PM (#29830791)
Here's a sad anecdote:

This is from a courthouse, they have a web application to register and edit formal requests from lawyers. Decent computers, ok network and printers.

From:

  - listening to the lawyer, 

  - (potentially reloging due to session timeouts),

  - accessing the right case through a long ID, 

  - re asking the lawyer about the case ID because half the time they confuse with another ID system, 

  - retrying to fetch the case, 

  - selecting a bunch of options (most are direct mapping from ID to value, ID is actually concatenation of these values) 

  - clicking a few more times, 

  - reinputing some the already redundant values and waiting for the system to generate the .odt. 

  - If that does not fail, you get an activex embed view of the document, 

  - which is 10-15% of the time incorrect in a few places, so manual edit here we go.

  - You can now print it x2
You spent 5 full minutes on this.

One day, network failed so no more web app. Girls told me they have a stash of old printed templates to fill manually. So I took the piece of paper, and while talking to the lawyer I could write things on the fly. It took 30 seconds, no wait, no uncertainty, no redundancy, no last minute error correction.

Middle age monks > 2000s technology (when implemented in absurdia)

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by em-bee on Thursday January 06, 2022 @04:12PM (#29830240)
yup, computers help us solve problems that we would not have without them
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by TecoAndJix on Thursday January 06, 2022 @10:57AM (#29825174)
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by ByThyGrace on Thursday January 06, 2022 @11:46AM (#29825897)
Is C&H text searchable? Great find otherwise!
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by dxbydt on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:14PM (#29826352)
The fuck. Its actually searchable!

I tried googling this - summer is butter on your chin site:https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/

found it instantly.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by blacksmith_tb on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:35PM (#29829688)
Looks like every strip has a transcript embedded in the markup right under the image, which is very thoughtful of them.
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by TecoAndJix on Thursday January 06, 2022 @12:23PM (#29826501)
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by Jtsummers on Thursday January 06, 2022 @02:13PM (#29828407)
> If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently.

This is actually why I still use a French press for my coffee every morning. I don't need to be hyper efficient all the time. That 15-20 minutes of my morning is relaxing, leisurely.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by potatoman22 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @02:49PM (#29828958)
You brew your coffee for 15-20 minutes?? French presses are nice though :)
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by Jtsummers on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:17PM (#29829409)
Grinding, boiling, to adding water to the grounds, then it takes 5 minutes. So ~10 minutes to boil the water, 5 for the actual brewing, and then 5+ minutes of just, whatever time.
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by InitialLastName on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:06PM (#29832622)
5 minutes alone outside in the morning air, alone with your thoughts, sipping a cup of freshly brewed coffee.
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by Jtsummers on Thursday January 06, 2022 @07:17PM (#29832747)
On good weather days, it was -15C or so this morning (so I ended up shoveling snow instead of relaxing like normal, got some exercise in though).
Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by bitwize on Thursday January 06, 2022 @03:28PM (#29829576)
Garfield puts a tray of heat-up lasagna into the microwave, which turns on for one second, then shuts off.

Garfield: These microwaves take forever.

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by indigochill on Thursday January 06, 2022 @01:03PM (#29827196)
> If we wanted more leisure, we'd invent machines that do things less efficiently.

Relevant XKCD? https://xkcd.com/303/

Re:What is the point of imagining new technologies without n... by aidenn0 on Thursday January 06, 2022 @08:11PM (#29833299)
Of course! Rust was designed by the head of the chair-jousting advocacy committee. It all makes sense now!