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Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by claytongulick on Friday December 31, 2021 @10:41PM (#29755291)
You don't want people who have medical degrees and are experts in their field treating you?

Because you have a better understanding of this than they do?

That seems like a strange position to take.

I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?"

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:08AM (#29755980)
I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?"

I’m all ears. On the face of it, getting vaccinated is a no brainer. I’d love to hear a medical reason for healthy individuals not to get vaccinated.

So far I’ve only heard arguments about vaccine mandates infringing on peoples rights, even though they never batted an eyelid at other vaccines. Why is this one a problem?

So far looking at the death rates, cases of severe illness, vaccination is the way to go. So I’d love to hear a compelling argument why you’d avoid it.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by claytongulick on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:27AM (#29756083)
Having natural immunity is an excellent reason, according to all of the studies I've read.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by jcranmer on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:35AM (#29756124)
From what I've seen, there is no risk in being vaccinated when you already have prior infection, and there are benefits to doing so. So I don't see why prior infection would constitute a good medical reason to avoid vaccination.

(Aside: it is worth noting that vaccination also induces "natural immunity", as it introduces viral units [via various mechanisms depending on specific vaccine type] that cause the immune system to work more or less the same way as it would if presented with a regular viral infection. So using the term "natural immunity" when what you really mean is "prior infection" smacks quite heavily of chemophobia.)

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by 2muchcoffeeman on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:32AM (#29756108)
No it’s not because the risk of getting serious illness is/was much higher compared to any vaccine. The risk of death is certainly higher. Again getting vaccinated is a no brainer on the face of it.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by zzzeek on Saturday January 01, 2022 @05:51PM (#29763728)
It seems like you don't have that much experience with real world doctors. Lots of highly educated doctors become complete crackpots who you'd not want to be putting a band-aid on you. Dr. Oz is one such very high profile example (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz#Reception) but there's lots more. I've had experiences with much less famous doctors that got all the proper education but then later lost their minds and/or decided to just make as much cash as possible. Really really common. I have trust in the field of medicine but in specific doctors just because they have their medical degree? no way.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by belltaco on Saturday January 01, 2022 @12:46AM (#29755867)
What percentage of doctors are unvaccinated? Or is there atleast a number or some reporting on doctors getting fired for refusing vaccinations?

>I would take a different position, like "what do these highly qualified health care workers understand that I don't?"

Examples?

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by mikeyouse on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:00AM (#29755936)
It’s literally the dumbest line of logic and my barely literate neighbor justifies his antivax status with the same theory. “What do the doctors who have declined the vaccine know that I don’t”

Even though over 99% of practicing doctors and something like 99.9% of hospitalists are vaccinated, they hold up that 1/1,000 as some sort of “truthsayer”.

If 999 experts in a field told you they trusted something and 1/1,000 said they didn’t —- you’d have to be an absolute fool to blindly follow the 1 and I'm a bit surprised how common this argument is on HN.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by claytongulick on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:30AM (#29756095)
Well, I personally know three and have seen many videos of others who feel that the risks outweigh the benefits for healthy people who have natural immunity.

So, that's more than one.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by mikeyouse on Saturday January 01, 2022 @02:29AM (#29756343)
Just nonsense. “Natural immunity” is another one of those amazing shibboleth words for those who don’t understand probabilities. It’s kind of amazing how innumerate most antivax people are.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by CryptoPunk on Saturday January 01, 2022 @05:28AM (#29757198)
Can you elaborate on what your problem is with the term "natural immunity"?
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by Spooky23 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @12:32PM (#29760581)
Doctors are just people, and like other people, a minority are idiots or feel they are invincible.
Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by tandymodel100 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:57PM (#29762683)
> Because you have a better understanding of this than they do?

I think that the vast majority of doctors that have taken the vaccine to protect themselves are probably smarter than the tiny minority that have refused, yes.

Re:Belgian scientific base in Antarctica engulfed by Covid d... by wiseowise on Friday December 31, 2021 @11:54PM (#29755647)
I believe my beliefs and choices are morally superior to yours, so that completely invalidates your merit! /s