Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by carbocation on Friday December 31, 2021 @05:37PM
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In a flat area, you could imagine designing a system so that it couldn't aim below horizon, and then mount it 10-15 feet up to mitigate the risk of blinding.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by skykooler on Friday December 31, 2021 @05:44PM
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That sounds like a big risk to aircraft.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by mwint on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:12PM
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Shouldn’t be too hard to pull FlightAware data or similar and just not ever shoot within n degrees of aircraft… if it was really much of a concern to start with. Big sky theory.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by tjohns on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:41PM
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Not all aircraft broadcast ADS-B positions.
And as a low-time pilot who’s been bit with laser beams from people’s Christmas decorations, I’d argue the big sky theory doesn’t apply here.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by xyzzyz on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:44PM
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FlightAware doesn't show all airplanes that are flying, only ones with ADS-B receivers, which are not required.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by mhh__ on Friday December 31, 2021 @07:20PM
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If it has IR it should also be able to spot aircraft trails but either way if there is any risk of blinding a pilot then they should tread extremely lightly (or non-startup-ish, i.e. obvious potential for "move fast and kill people").
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by kylehotchkiss on Friday December 31, 2021 @07:24PM
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Flightaware’s api isn’t super cheap, that would add up if you’re calling the planes overhead API all day
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by TheDudeMan on Friday December 31, 2021 @05:47PM
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How long of a pulse is required to disable an insect? How long to be a danger to airplane pilots?
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by AlexAndScripts on Friday December 31, 2021 @07:58PM
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Could multiple lasers converge on a point, such that each individual laser can't do any damage at the range of a aircraft, but combined they can kill an insect?
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by robryk on Friday December 31, 2021 @08:55PM
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Also, can we get a laser that's collimated badly enough that the beam is ~harmless at distances where an aircraft can be, while still collimated well enough to fry the insect? (In the spirit of "the best radiation shield is r squared".)
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by stubish on Saturday January 01, 2022 @12:48AM
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I think an aircraft flying 15 feet above ground is a big risk to your crops too.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by carbocation on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:00PM
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That's a good point.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by coolspot on Friday December 31, 2021 @06:28PM
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And birds
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by numpad0 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @01:34AM
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The original article was published a month or so earlier, and sounded a bit like the angular resolution for whatever machine was already determined, and they worked their way back to suitable bugs and the use case, rather than having a specific issue in mind and designing the setup around.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by dr-ando on Saturday January 01, 2022 @06:46AM
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Which original article? I would be interested to read it.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by numpad0 on Saturday January 01, 2022 @07:27AM
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[1]. Upon re-reading this, they don't even have the actual laser rig, just a camera and a methodology to estimate future locations to compensate for [camera] latencies with accuracy that conveniently fits within average body sizes of specific spices of a bug. This is also funded by "Moonshot R&D Program" and its sub-programs[2][3] ran by the Cabinet Office of Government of Japan.
Are you fluent in the language by chance? Because I might be able to explain how I came to post the above comment but it's hard, it just ... smells.
1: https://www.naro.go.jp/publicity_report/press/laboratory/nip...
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by dr-ando on Saturday January 01, 2022 @03:26PM
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Thanks. I was able to read [1] with the help of Google Translate. From what I understand, this is an announcement of the project being funded within the Moonshot program and thus it is expected that the capabilities discussed are the goal, not what the researchers have already demonstrated.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by stavros on Friday December 31, 2021 @08:08PM
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Why is 1.4cm at 1km great? You still missed, so it's terrible at any range.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by coryrc on Friday December 31, 2021 @08:26PM
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Because that's only 1.4mm at 1m, which is very useful.
Re:Predict 3D position of flying bugs and pest to shoot down...
by bottled_poe on Friday December 31, 2021 @09:24PM
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This doesn’t look right
I’m also curious what the failsafes are like for this - how will they prevent laser spillover or misfires from hitting eyes? Even if this is a 1 in a million chance, it likely isn’t worth it except in highly remote areas.