Re:Ask HN: Did YouTube said why they don't allow creators to...
by robbedpeter on Sunday December 26, 2021 @08:30PM
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To combat brigading, basically. There were automated tools used by people to achieve particular thresholds of dislike counts on videos so as to trigger automated moderation conditions, suppressing content and achieving a temporary shadowbanned, forcing the creator to engage with human moderators to mitigate the damage.
They probably found that dealing with such false positives was more expensive than turning off public view of dislikes. The decision reeks of soulless bean counter thinking.
Re:Ask HN: Did YouTube said why they don't allow creators to...
by MonxK6PY7 on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:32AM
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Ahh thanks - their comment below the video 'explains' their pathetic decision:
"""
This is optional for creators today! But we’ve seen that when creators choose to turn off likes/dislikes on their videos, they can be bullied and harassed for their decision. Ultimately, because it’s YouTube’s responsibility to protect its community and create an inclusive environment where creators (like yourself!) feel safe to express themselves, we’ve decided to make the dislike count private across all videos, so that creators aren’t pressured to make this decision themselves.
"""
^^ Loosley translated >> We can't let our paying advertisers get review bombed and we have to ensure we provide them with the most value possible. We also want to phase the use of dislikes out of our algorithm for reccomendations and turn to an exclusively paid promotion model in the future but can't do that surreptitiously without removing the dislike button in advance. #ifeveryreccomendationisanadvertweonlyhavetotellyouonceintheT&C's
Re:Ask HN: Did YouTube said why they don't allow creators to...
by josephcsible on Monday December 27, 2021 @02:38AM
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Another loose translation: Because if uploaders got to choose whether or not to show dislikes, they'd end up hidden on videos with a lot of dislikes and shown on videos with hardly any. Our goal is for us to have all the influence over what videos you watch, not the other peons who watch videos on our platform, so we need to make sure that signal isn't available to you.
They probably found that dealing with such false positives was more expensive than turning off public view of dislikes. The decision reeks of soulless bean counter thinking.
""" This is optional for creators today! But we’ve seen that when creators choose to turn off likes/dislikes on their videos, they can be bullied and harassed for their decision. Ultimately, because it’s YouTube’s responsibility to protect its community and create an inclusive environment where creators (like yourself!) feel safe to express themselves, we’ve decided to make the dislike count private across all videos, so that creators aren’t pressured to make this decision themselves. """
^^ Loosley translated >> We can't let our paying advertisers get review bombed and we have to ensure we provide them with the most value possible. We also want to phase the use of dislikes out of our algorithm for reccomendations and turn to an exclusively paid promotion model in the future but can't do that surreptitiously without removing the dislike button in advance. #ifeveryreccomendationisanadvertweonlyhavetotellyouonceintheT&C's