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Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by Game_Ender on Saturday December 25, 2021 @08:16AM (#29683068)
It’s referring to the Christmas Eve broadcast of Apollo 8, the first manned mission in orbit around the moon, another large milestone in spaceflight and for humanity overall [0]. The American space program likes to refer to its past accomplishments and this is the biggest and most complex space telescope ever launched. It’s also tradition to use “big” and inspiring language, so calling back to that era makes for a more compelling message.

0 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by capableweb on Saturday December 25, 2021 @08:22AM (#29683117)
That broadcast seems to even have it's own Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8_Genesis_reading

> On Christmas Eve, December 24, 1968, the crew of Apollo 8 read from the Book of Genesis as they orbited the Moon

Seems no one was happy with what they came up with, so they ended up going with Genesis part from the bible instead. Not everyone was happy with that though:

> Madalyn Murray O'Hair, founder of American Atheists, responded by suing the United States government, alleging violations of the First Amendment

Ended up being dismissed by all the courts though.

But still, I cannot believe that people who are supposedly scientists start quoting the bible when they are themselves involved in maybe one of the greatest scientific achievements of our time. How does that resolve?

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by kuschku on Saturday December 25, 2021 @09:03AM (#29683423)
> But still, I cannot believe that people who are supposedly scientists start quoting the bible when they are themselves involved in maybe one of the greatest scientific achievements of our time. How does that resolve?

As atheist: even if you don’t believe in christianity, the bible is still a book with some stories that have made a massive impact and which can evoke deep emotion in many readers/listeners. Especially in such an emotional context as venturing out into space.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by Grismar on Saturday December 25, 2021 @04:37PM (#29687183)
The same would be true for the Torah, Quran or any other major religious text (including non-Abrahamitic ones) - would you have brought the same defense, if only one of those had been quoted, if you are perfectly honest?
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by atonse on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:03PM (#29687380)
I’m a pretty strong atheist. It’s odd to me too. However I’m answering why the Bible over other religious texts. That one at least feels obvious.

The people reading it were likely Christian. The majority of the people listening would’ve been Christian. The majority of the people that footed the bill would’ve been Christian.

Like others have said, you don’t have to believe in the existence of a diety to feel moved by words from some religious texts.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by jbay808 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:08PM (#29687417)
The Book of Genesis is from the Torah though, isn't it?
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by kuschku on Sunday December 26, 2021 @11:31AM (#29693768)
Genesis is common to all abrahamistic religions, so it has the widest appeal.

Personally I’d have appreciated a quote from any other text equally, but I’m going to assume that a US government official reading a non-christian text publicly might have effects on coming elections.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by dragonwriter on Saturday December 25, 2021 @10:42AM (#29684154)
> But still, I cannot believe that people who are supposedly scientists start quoting the bible when they are themselves involved in maybe one of the greatest scientific achievements of our time. How does that resolve?

It may be confusing because of the attitude toward empirical science of some prominent strains of American fundamentalism (and the way the media often reduces that to a narrative of a fundamental religion vs. science conflict), but having religious belief about the metaphysical nature of reality and pursuing scientific understanding of its physical nature have often been things that go together. I mean, consider Georges Lemaître.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by NikolaeVarius on Saturday December 25, 2021 @08:28AM (#29683174)
I'm an Atheist. At some point you will have to realize that religious people exist, and many astronauts are devout Catholic.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by kortex on Saturday December 25, 2021 @09:32AM (#29683606)
I don't believe in an Abrahamic creator-God but I think the reading of Genesis on Apollo 8 is extremely moving. I don't interpret it as being particularly religious or Abrahamic. "Let there be light" is, IMHO, a universal notion of our strange existence in the cosmos. Maybe it means creation to some, the big bang to others. It's 3-4000 year old poetry (likely long predating the old testament in oral tradition).
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by HideousKojima on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:20PM (#29685534)
>But still, I cannot believe that people who are supposedly scientists start quoting the bible when they are themselves involved in maybe one of the greatest scientific achievements of our time. How does that resolve?

"A little philosophy inclineth man’s mind to atheism; but depth in philosophy bringeth men’s minds about to religion." - Francis Bacon

And for a clearcut example of this, Isaac Newton figured out calculus and classical mechanics, but also spent an inordinate amount of time trying to find secret messages hidden in the Bible.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:53PM (#29685856)
From my understanding, Newton eventually decided he'd figured out everything there was to figure out (which was kind of true), then he got bored, so he started to dabble in alchemy and bible things.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by TedShiller on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:56PM (#29685896)
Being a scientist and being religious are not mutually exclusive.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by Intermernet on Saturday December 25, 2021 @05:15PM (#29687490)
True, but the intersection of the Venn diagram has only shrunk throughout history.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by TedShiller on Saturday December 25, 2021 @06:55PM (#29688253)
Has it? That would be an interesting diagram but I wouldn’t assume anything
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by ramesh31 on Saturday December 25, 2021 @10:34AM (#29684091)
Oppenheimer quoted the Baghavad Ghita in his first statement after the Trinity test. Scientists are humans too.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by avar on Saturday December 25, 2021 @12:57PM (#29685271)
That famous Oppenheimer quote is from 1965, not 1945.

After the Trinity test he went on to work for the US government for some years on nuclear weapons, which goes against the usual "what have we done?" sentiment that quote is meant to convey.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by TedShiller on Saturday December 25, 2021 @01:58PM (#29685909)
It would be hard to be a scientist without being human
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by cscurmudgeon on Saturday December 25, 2021 @11:35AM (#29684568)
Funnily, that is probably the only religious text that is not religious.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by HideousKojima on Saturday December 25, 2021 @02:52PM (#29686377)
I've read the Bhagavad Gita and it spends a significant amount of time talking about karma and reincarnation. Not sure how you could see it as non-religious unless you did to it what Thomas Jefferson did to the Bible.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by cscurmudgeon on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:05PM (#29686483)
There is a lot of non religious content in there.

https://michaeldevfay.medium.com/the-bhagavad-gita-for-athei...

The point of Gita's message is to NOT worry about karma and reincarnation.

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by HideousKojima on Saturday December 25, 2021 @03:25PM (#29686663)
And there's plenty of non-religious content in the Bible, but no one in their right mind would call it a non-religious text.
Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by cscurmudgeon on Saturday December 25, 2021 @02:10PM (#29686026)
The local knee jerk reactionary downvoting is hilarious and expected given the faux intellectualism that is now rampant here. Since I can't edit my original comment, here you go.

There is a ton of wisdom in the Gita.

https://michaeldevfay.medium.com/the-bhagavad-gita-for-athei...

Re:James Webb Space Telescope launch [video] by jazzyjackson on Saturday December 25, 2021 @09:23PM (#29689096)
You'd be surprised how many scientists throughout history were motivated by the notion of better knowing the nature of god.