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Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by vanusa on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:22PM (#29569664)
It wasn't a "video", back then they only had ... never mind.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by ladberg on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:26PM (#29569718)
Are you trying to say they didn't have video in 1963?
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by vanusa on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:33PM (#29569824)
I'm referring to the fact that the "video" in question was an 8mm color film:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film

Obviously "video" existed then in the sense that there was television -- but consumer video cameras didn't appear until around 1979 or 1980.

Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:28PM (#29569745)
yes, he's saying they only had film in 1963
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by khazhoux on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:50PM (#29570080)
A quick search (wikipedia) shows videotape existed in 1956, at $300/hr.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by BuildTheRobots on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:16PM (#29572772)
Just as an fyi, that's pretty massive tape used in a broadcast studio.

The first consumer video camera (camera that recorded to tape rather than film) wasn't until the BetaMovie in 1983 with VHS coming months later. Heck, _home_ video recorders were still 15-20 years off at the time.

Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by bryanrasmussen on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:05PM (#29570925)
thanks, I wasn't aware, although whether or not they had what vanusa was saying seemed obvious.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by vanusa on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:11PM (#29570300)
Right - something for studios, not the man on the street.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by tantalor on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:31PM (#29569791)
What do you think TV is?
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by the-dude on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:36PM (#29569870)
TV is a video you can't rewind. Not the real thing.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by sneeds on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:25PM (#29569708)
I dont even know what you are trying to say.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by vanusa on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:34PM (#29569844)
The commenter thinks the Zapruder film was a "video" is what I'm saying.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by wavefunction on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:48PM (#29571437)
I assume all the times I've watched it, it's been from video format. I really doubt they were playing the 8mm every time live and broadcasting. So... I guess it's now a video and not film.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by jstanley on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @01:51PM (#29570085)
In what way is it not a video?
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by shard on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:04PM (#29570235)
As a generalization: Video, going back to before the digital era, refers to images recorded on magnetic videotapes, such as VHS or Betamax. This is in contrast with film, which is images recorded using light sensitive silver halide crystals. Video tapes are viewed by scanning the magnetic strips and displaying on a monitor with scan lines. Films are viewed by shining a light through the developed film and displaying the whole image on a reflective screen.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by BrazzVuvuzela on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:08PM (#29570281)
Not quite. Video is generally an electronic medium for moving pictures and can be sent over cables or radio waves from the camera to the TV, without touching a tape. A video signal can be recorded on a tape, but isn't necessarily.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by shard on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:29PM (#29570494)
Yes, you are right. Looks like you squeezed in your comment before I was able to put the "as a generalization" disclaimer on it! :)

I was thinking more of the situation where some people might be confused with the Zapruder recording, that it could be on videotape instead of film, which is why I didn't try to cover all the corner cases.

Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by mongol on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:06PM (#29570259)
It was film. Video is an electronic signal stored on tape (originally)
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Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by omniglottal on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:19PM (#29571110)
Don't be rude. @dang enforces rules against this.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by vanusa on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @02:08PM (#29570283)
Video can refer to non-digital media, see: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/video

It still doesn't say that video includes "film". You can make a video recording of a film of course, but that's different.

And even if it didn't, what did you think I meant? And how is that even relevant to the question?

It seems you were confused about something that used to be a very obvious distinction, that not too long ago no one would trip up on (the difference between "video" and "film"). It's not especially relevant of course, it was just weird.

Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by floor2 on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:20PM (#29571119)
Your stance on this is intriguing to me. I'm treating this thread as a neat little obscure, pedantic fact that I learned today- that historically the word "video" had a distinct meaning from "film".

Because never once in my 40-some years as an English speaking American have I ever seen this distinction. The two words are functionally synonyms in common usage, or perhaps the common usage would be something like "film" is a subset of "video".

Perhaps it varies with geography or industry? Maybe Americans use the terms interchangeably but Brits don't? Or maybe within the entertainment or photography industries experts use the terms with more precision than the average citizen?

Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @03:26PM (#29571178)
I think you're just not old enough. Back in the 1960s, film and video were distinct mediums. For one thing, film had a lot higher resolution. For another, they ran at different frame rates. There were tricks to convert film to video (3:2 pulldown), but nobody went from video to film - the resolution was so limited, it would look terrible.
Re:JFK Assassination Records – 2021 Additional Documents Rel... by TigeriusKirk on Wednesday December 15, 2021 @06:31PM (#29572901)
I'm American and I've always heard them used as distinct terms. I think your experience may be unusual in this regard.