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Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by bstar77 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @04:34PM (#29422973)
After my experience 3 years ago, I will never use them again. I priced out an instance that estimated around $30/month via their calculator. Instance is indeed around $30 for the first 2 months, then I get a $200 bill. I don't know what the hell happened, but it was over 6x what I had budgeted. I tried to get someone to review my account, but I didn't get a response and just had to suck it up. I paid the $200 and moved on. Never again, I'll use Linode or something else instead.

I clearly did something wrong, but the process was so confusing that I couldn't tell you what it was. It probably had to do with running the server at sub-optimal times when rates were higher, but I don't remember reading anything about that. It was a Windows-based game server, so the extra cpu overhead might have had something to do with it.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by rmason on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:01PM (#29424084)
I'm using Google Fi. Once I exceed my paid for bandwidth level for a given month it notifies me. When I go 50% over it notifies me a second time. If I want to know the bandwidth used I can check it anytime I want on my phone.

Considering the huge amount of developers having problems of this kind how hard would it be for AWS to implement a similar system?

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by hparadiz on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:52PM (#29424708)
Google did this to me with Adwords. They gave me a "free" $200 to run a test campaign but it never turned off and I was not notified in anyway. They ended up charging me $800 for a completely test campaign for a non product blog website that ended up not even getting any traffic. Very scummy behavior even worse than AWS. It was basically extortion because I would have lost my entire Google account if I disputed the charges with my credit card.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by LdSGSgvupDV on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:35PM (#29425109)
This is why I don't like to sign my credit card to any subscription service or anything similar. There is almost no way to delete the credit card, and it is hard to notice the charging before it happened. We should have legislation to make them offer one-shot charging without storing my payment information. Pay as my budget. Shutdown if exceed.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by Kye on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:45PM (#29425193)
Privacy.com

Doesn't cost anything, can use different bank accounts for funding on a per card basis, configurable limits.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by bradknowles on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:37PM (#29443657)
Except they are in the process of changing their bank that they work with, so that they can change the type of cards they issue, and you have until the end of December to change over all your old cards from the old format to the new one, which means changing the card numbers, too.

This is a royal pain in the ass for those of us with hundreds of cards registered through them.

If there was another service of this type that existed, I’d switch to them in a heartbeat. And I will no longer recommend them here.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by Kye on Saturday December 04, 2021 @08:09PM (#29445870)
1: That news popped up here after I posted this.

2: New accounts since around October are already on the new thing.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by hparadiz on Monday December 06, 2021 @03:26AM (#29457481)
It wouldn't work anyway cause I'd just have a large debt with them they'd eventually lock my account over.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by howdydoo on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:53PM (#29425256)
>how hard would it be for AWS to implement a similar system?

I don't want to be that guy who yells out from my armchair to say something is easy. But........ quota management at its core is incrementing a number, then reading the number back. AWS is already doing things plenty more complicated than that. I'm sure they could build this if they cared to.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by heavyset_go on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:13PM (#29424256)
Other providers let users put billing limits on their accounts. Seems like Amazon benefits when users aren't able to put a $30 a month limit on their accounts like the OP wanted to.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by st3fan on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:29PM (#29424452)
You are just making stuff up. AWS has all those things. Billing limits. Cost monitoring. It is all there.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by Etheryte on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:40PM (#29424597)
If you have to be a domain expert to configure it correctly, as is clearly the case with AWS since configuring it is a whole separate industry, then for all intents and purposes it is not there as far as a regular user is concerned. If it helps, imagine a Cessna pilot who's suddenly asked to fly a big intercontinental aircraft without any of the assistance features turned on. All the controls are there, but as far as the Cessna pilot is concerned, they can't fly it.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by ncann on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:35PM (#29424537)
Billing limits, as in, a hard limit over which resources will shut down and I can be sure I won't be charged over that limit? I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by chris37879 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:13PM (#29425417)
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cost-management/latest/userguide...

You have to configure (correctly) an AWS IAM account with permissions to run actions you have to specify when budget amounts are hit. There's no simple 'Do not spend more than $X per month' setting. You have to understand AWS's auth and roles to set a limit using an action.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by heavyset_go on Thursday December 02, 2021 @09:09PM (#29425811)
Monitoring, alerts etc are not the same thing as being able to put a cap on the amount of money Amazon can charge your account for services per billing period.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by post-it on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:15PM (#29424918)
AWS does not have billing limits.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by EricE on Thursday December 02, 2021 @09:35PM (#29425998)
You can budget but Amazon will NOT cut you off if you go over the budget.

At best you might get some alerts in a timely manner. Good luck.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by Andrew_nenakhov on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:05PM (#29424146)
How hard? Bees against honey hard.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by whalesalad on Thursday December 02, 2021 @04:49PM (#29423174)
The disk you attach to an instance is not free, and capacity/performance characteristics dictate price.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by bstar77 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @06:27PM (#29424429)
It's possible that was the issue, but I estimated a 20gb storage partition. Maybe usage was to blame, I know the server was inefficient with reads and writes.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by kondro on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:28PM (#29425061)
But what did you actually assign? EBS volumes are priced based on provisioned capacity (including throughput if you choose io2 volumes).
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by bstar77 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @08:02PM (#29425333)
I just don't remember the details. As I said earlier, it's likely I made a mistake, but the process was not clear and I was not notified when my instance expense ballooned to something I clearly wasn't expecting. I never had these kinds of issues with Heroku, Linode or any other host.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by jsemrau on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:48PM (#29425211)
A fellow Linode aficionado!

I had a similar experience as you. You are getting lured in by the free tier, but then this paid additional service is needed and that paid on top. Didn't work for me at all.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by bradknowles on Saturday December 04, 2021 @02:35PM (#29443635)
With AWS, you can set up billing rules to notify you of any charges over any limit you want, and you can break that down by service or overall charges, etc…. You learn a lot about this process when you become an AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner.

Sadly, they don’t turn these things on by default. You have to know about them in advance, and you have to know how to configure them. That’s one thing I wish they would improve.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by qwertyuiop_ on Thursday December 02, 2021 @07:14PM (#29424916)
There goes a call for thousands of MBA hacks to slither into this mess and create more mess and call it "value creation"
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by nix23 on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:23PM (#29423612)
Just try Oracle Cloud believe me...it's so much better.
Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by danielheath on Thursday December 02, 2021 @05:37PM (#29423790)
It’s not any more straightforward to use IME, and I have had an instance vanish without a trace in the past 4 months.

It is, however, far cheaper and has more transparent pricing.

Re:Amazon EC2 M1 Mac Instances by nix23 on Friday December 03, 2021 @03:07PM (#29434638)
> It’s not any more straightforward to use IME, and I have had an instance vanish without a trace in the past 4 months.

It's called administrating on whisky ;)