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Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by yellow_lead on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:43PM (#29363205)
Maybe companies should alert on an increased amount of traffic to their status pages.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by kelnos on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:18PM (#29363638)
That might be a good idea as a last-resort measure, but if you're only finding out problems because customers are telling you about them (even indirectly through a signal like this), your monitoring and alerting is woefully inadequate.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by szundi on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:36PM (#29363803)
fun fact here that no matter how short the automated system is set up to alert, customers are faster - no one knows how is that possible
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by therein on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:44PM (#29363872)
Yup, that's another reason why it pays off having a direct line of communication to at least some of your top customers.

Can't tell you how many times I've had a customer write to me, only to be receiving some automated alerts 30-40 seconds later.

Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by lanstin on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:53PM (#29363949)
And the best customers for this are the pickiest annoying ones
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by strictfp on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:21AM (#29367758)
Generally I agree. Humans are much better at recognizing patterns than machines.

But as a counterpoint I was once working in a project where our monitoring dashboard showed an anomaly in incoming traffic. It turned out that it was an ISP problem and that we were the first ones to notice according to them.

So maybe part of the answer as to why customers are faster is that different monitoring systems are monitoring each other :)

Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by hnarn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:22PM (#29363686)
It’s not last resort, you should do both because you’re alerting on different things.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by mlazowik on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:50PM (#29363279)
I’ve seen alerting based on the number of Twitter mentions too
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by colpabar on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:03PM (#29363439)
I think this is how downdetector works, it just looks for tweets that are complaining about something not working.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by PaulBGD_ on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:57PM (#29363983)
I'm fairly confident they just count a site as down based off the popularity of the page.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by scrollaway on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:45PM (#29363218)
That's honestly a good idea. Does anyone do that?
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by hnarn on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:21PM (#29363671)
A telco I used to work for did this like two decades ago but even better, they mapped incoming support calls (customers) to stations, and if more than N came in during a certain period for the same DSLAM it triggered some kind of alert.

Same thing happens (should happen) when you visit your ISPs website and look for registered downtime — many requests from one zip code from multiple ips should trigger an alarm if the isp is competent.

Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by cranekam on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:52PM (#29363296)
In my last job our main “is everything okay?” monitoring dashboard had RPS, latency, 500 rate etc and a line for the number of user issues reported per N requests served. We didn’t alert on this but it was a useful way to detect issues that were subtle enough not to trip up our main alerts.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by gdubicki on Saturday November 27, 2021 @03:49PM (#29363266)
My company does. :)
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by rozenmd on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:09PM (#29363531)
I'm surprised more folks don't monitor their vendors via uptime checkers - worth knowing if you'll be able to get anything done that day.
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by qubyte on Saturday November 27, 2021 @04:03PM (#29363446)
Close that loop: Once the traffic goes above a threshold transition it to red!
Re:Tell HN: GitHub is down again by ksec on Sunday November 28, 2021 @05:21AM (#29367756)
They should also monitor HN's submission with GitHub mentioned. Judging from historical pattern it is probably faster than monitoring traffic on status page or even twitter.