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Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by antihero on Thursday November 11, 2021 @06:37AM (#29186880)
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&th...

"I have been sitting for hours debating whether or not to disclose this, and I feel like it's something I do need to get off of my chest. Frankly, I'm tried of being quiet. I've mostly had to stay quiet for years about things happening behind the scenes. I've held things inside so long and so hard my chest physically hurt the same way it is now.

I considered not sharing this out of respect for Rich's parents and sister, but after thinking on the incredibly vitriolic wall of text Rich's Mother sent to me this morning, saying upon many other things, that his blood is on my hands, I need to share it to regain some sense of control over what's taken place in the past 48 hours.

Yesterday I recieved a divorce ruling that would help me and my daughter stay in our home in Canada and allow me to provide a good life for her as well as pay back numerous debts that had accrued during the past two years when I was receiving $350 a month in child support.

In the divorce ruling the judge found that Rich had willfully spent down the martial fund, confirmed his treatment of me was Domestic Violence and put together a plan to pay for the attorney fees etc. He would still retain custody settled on previously in mediation. He was due to get our daughter for Christmas.

An hour later I was contacted by my attorney who informed me that Rich had shot himself earlier in the morning.

So. There it is. His other ex and I got to tell our children that their father died without saying goodbye to them, or that he loved them, or to my knowledge, left a note for them.

If you've made it this far thank you for giving me space to let this go so I know longer have to hold onto it. "

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by kryogen1c on Thursday November 11, 2021 @10:51AM (#29189253)
"May the good he created stretch on, and the evil be buried with him."
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by DonHopkins on Saturday November 13, 2021 @09:50PM (#29215044)
That's an apt ewwwlogy.
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by EdwardDiego on Sunday November 14, 2021 @02:27AM (#29215898)
> His other ex and I got to tell our children that their father died without saying goodbye to them, or that he loved them

Wow. This is when I'd suggest indulging in a small white lie, for your children's sake.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by dotancohen on Monday November 15, 2021 @03:52AM (#29225212)
Or don't say either.

Don't say "your father died without saying goodbye" and don't say "your father died and said goodby". Just say "your father died". No need for manipulation.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by EdwardDiego on Monday November 15, 2021 @11:12PM (#29236718)
No need? I disagree, just based on my experiences of raising my children who have a mentally unwell absentee mother. I also disagree it's manipulation, as that implies lying to them to achieve a selfish goal of your own, whereas a white lie is intended to be for their benefit.

My younger children still need to hear from time to time that she loves them, even if the obvious reality (to me, and my older children) is that her behaviour demonstrates quite clearly that she doesn't.

But, to ease their young minds, and help them sleep when the doubts come, I tell them that she does love them, and always will so, but she's working on some challenges that make it hard for her to tell them in person.

To quote Thackeray's Vanity Fair - "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children."

(She has supervised access, but won't use it because "she did nothing wrong", and using it appears to her, as an implicit acknowledgement that she did something wrong)

I dislike lying to them, and I'll admit I feel angry when I do so - they love her because she's Mom, but she doesn't deserve their love - but it safeguards their mental wellbeing until they're old enough to face the unvarnished truth.

I also think of the day my father died, twelve days before I was born. He died smiling (I'm told) despite the intense pain, because of a white lie.

He was dying of cancer, and they desperately trying to induce me so he could meet me before he died, but no dice. And they'd been unable to discern my gender via ultrasound. He was desperate to have a son. (this was the 80s, so you know, patriarchy was the norm, etc. etc.)

In his last hour, he asked the nurse if his child had been born, and she lied magnificently - yes, you have a beautiful baby boy, he's eight pounds five, congratulations. (Which was not a bad guess, I was eight pounds 10).

While they're wildly disparate circumstances, they share a commonality - the unvarnished truth isn't always the best option in some circumstances.

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Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by happytoexplain on Thursday November 11, 2021 @07:46AM (#29187302)
The wording suggests the applicability of the term was arrived at via a court ruling, which it was.
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by zionic on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:08PM (#29190323)
*family court ruling

That is a very different thing, especially in the US.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by JKCalhoun on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:39AM (#29187681)
"Concept creep" is interesting — is there an old and new concept of domestic violence?
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by sho_hn on Thursday November 11, 2021 @09:30AM (#29188164)
This is probably a heavy-handed way to enter the conversation, but I was rather surprised when I found out how many countries until only recently updated laws on DV and rape to apply to married couples in the same way as unmarried couples. Society seems to have felt decidedly different levels of outrage about doing bad things to unmarried persons (usually women) vs. married ones, and persons in marriage could get away with doing some awful things to their partners.

See e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marital_rape_laws_by_country

This is the extreme view, there's of course many other forms of DV and laws across the spectrum are no less fascinating. Note also that there's a difference between legal frameworks and enforcement - I understand, for example, that Japan recently updated the laws to criminalize spousal rape, but it doesn't mean a court will rule on it.

So this is one way in which the definition of DV has broadened. To me it doesn't meet the implied negative connotations of "creep", however.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by happytoexplain on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:52AM (#29187802)
The parent is referring to a part of the broader notion that some people feel that some other people have over-extended the use of accusatory terms. It's a segment of the SJW/wokeness/cancel-culture/left-vs-right thing. E.g. the word "violence" was used by somebody (I forget the case, but it was not a legal usage of the term) to refer to something non-physical. "Words can be violence", or something like that. I think "poverty is a form of violence" is also something I've heard. I've seen this criticism made for over-usage of the term "hate speech" too, but only in a sarcastic, theoretical way. I've haven't seen the actual instances of the term's misuse. Similarly, I haven't seen cases where the specific term "domestic violence" was over-extended in any popular or legal context (though they may exist).
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by bigbillheck on Thursday November 11, 2021 @01:31PM (#29191283)
The old concept was 'it doesn't exist, and if it does it wasn't the husband's fault'
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by throwaway2048 on Thursday November 11, 2021 @07:34AM (#29187219)
not quite sure how you are arriving at that conclusion?
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by prvc on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:13AM (#29187494)
It is an interpretation, not a conclusion, based on the premise that one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV, if the term had been interpreted according to its traditional meaning.
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by happytoexplain on Thursday November 11, 2021 @08:46AM (#29187763)
>one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV

I'm not defending/attacking any person here, since I haven't read further details, but if one goes to court to have something "obvious" decided upon, and then one writes for strangers about it, many (I think even most) people would absolutely use the same wording she used. "The judge confirmed X." I think you're looking too hard for a case that may support some conception you have, instead of accepting that that sentence doesn't have anything insidious in it. Whatever the situation is in reality is coincidental to that sentence.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by prvc on Thursday November 11, 2021 @10:22AM (#29188787)
That would be another possible interpretation of the phrase, but I think it is the less plausible one due to other contextual cues in the above text. In fact, the following quote appears on p. 128 of the same thread, posted by the same account:

>with me, Rich did not get physical.

Which, in my view, definitively settles the issue in the favor of my previous comments. The imputed "suggestion" was, in fact, the case. I also don't see why a bad-faith "flag" could be an appropriate response to the content of that post, which merely makes a reasonable point.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by pseudalopex on Thursday November 11, 2021 @07:29PM (#29194999)
Did you read more than the 1st sentence?

"There was one instance where he rushed me and I put my arms out to stop him, another where he pinned me down on the bed, but from what I can recall right now the rest was emotional, financial, verbal and lots of intimidation like punching holes in the wall, throwing and breaking things, screaming in my face."

Rushing, pinning, punching, and throwing are physical and violent. And I don't know how you ruled out threats.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by seattle_spring on Thursday November 11, 2021 @10:47AM (#29189188)
So you don't think psychological abuse is domestic violence?

Do not have kids, please.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by prvc on Thursday November 11, 2021 @11:04AM (#29189434)
>So you don't think psychological abuse is domestic violence?

It doesn't follow that making a distinction between the two concepts entails approval of instances of either one.

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by Apocryphon on Thursday November 11, 2021 @07:37PM (#29195056)
Psychological abuse is plainly a subset of domestic violence.
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Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by mr_overalls on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:17PM (#29190418)
I would not so quick to judge the circumstances surround their divorce. There are quite serious allegations of physical and financial abuse lasting for years.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/helping-a-friend-in-hiding

Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by tmccrary55 on Thursday November 11, 2021 @12:57PM (#29190875)
He seems to deny the allegations here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/still-amazed-at-39693289
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by BlackFingolfin on Thursday November 11, 2021 @01:12PM (#29191059)
"Seems" to, but does he? He goes on about how "never been convicted or found guilty of doing shit", points out (correctly) that anyone can allege anything on the internet -- but I don't see him actually deny any of the accusations?
Re:Richard “Lowtax” Kyanka, creator of Somethingawful, has died by bigbillheck on Thursday November 11, 2021 @01:29PM (#29191260)
Per the gofundme, she got 'approximately 1/5th of the marital estate' plus 2.5 years of alimony. This seems a long way away from 'ruined for life'.