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A comment on BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury.

Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by pengaru on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:47AM (#28744169)
This is cool and all, but why am I looking at black and white photos in 2021 sent from something launched in 2018?
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by stiller on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:24AM (#28744362)
The images were taken using the monitoring cameras:

https://www.esa.int/ESA_Multimedia/Images/2018/10/BepiColomb...

Images using primary instruments will follow when it reaches orbit in 2025.

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by SiempreViernes on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:24AM (#28744359)
It's a navigation camera, not output from any main instrument so it doesn't come with a filter wheel. The importance factor is having very good linear response to incoming light, not making good phone backgrounds.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by Fronzie on Monday October 04, 2021 @03:53AM (#28744206)
Because it's a scientific instrument and there's surprisingly little science value in capturing the other visible-light wavelengths.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by guntars on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:17AM (#28744324)
Yet there's a fantastic PR and public value. The resolution is also only 1024x1024.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by pengaru on Monday October 04, 2021 @05:33AM (#28744755)
I'm more forgiving on the resolution front, my assumption is space isn't the greatest place for a very high density sensor. Historically it's been discouraged to bring digital cameras on planes without shielding since the sensors get damaged cells.

But why they're not just sticking an array of sensors everywhere they've got the b&w sensor, with fixed color filters in front of them, escapes me. Even smartphones are starting to look like insect eyes with the number of lenses in front of dedicated sensors. You'd also get the advantage of some redundancy.

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by wumpus on Monday October 04, 2021 @05:35AM (#28744773)
How much money do you want them to spend to do it your way, instead of doing what's needed to maximize science?
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by guntars on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:20AM (#28756708)
You don't think this is worth the money, assuming no scientific value?

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/system/resources/detail_files/9...

Source: NASA/Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory/Southwest Research Institute/Alex Parker Published: July 23, 2018

This is the most accurate natural color images of Pluto taken by NASA's New Horizons spacecraft in 2015.

These natural-color images result from refined calibration of data gathered by New Horizons' color Multispectral Visible Imaging Camera (MVIC). The processing creates images that would approximate the colors that the human eye would perceive, bringing them closer to “true color” than the images released near the encounter.

This image was taken as New Horizons zipped toward Pluto and its moons on July 14, 2015, from a range of 22,025 miles (35,445) kilometers. This single color MVIC scan includes no data from other New Horizons imagers or instruments added. The striking features on Pluto are clearly visible, including the bright expanse of Pluto's icy, nitrogen-and-methane rich "heart," Sputnik Planitia.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/resources/933/true-colors-of-pl...

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by bregma on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:03AM (#28745202)
I guess the problem would turn into one of getting a good WiFi signal 90 million miles from the nearest AP.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by dylan604 on Monday October 04, 2021 @11:46AM (#28748216)
They just need to build a StarLink-esque mission that drops off repeaters every million miles or so. You'll need at least platinum status to get access to the wifi , otherwise it will be $30/hour. We know you have choices when you fly to Mercury, so we thank you for choosing BepiColombo Spacelines.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by petschge on Monday October 04, 2021 @01:11PM (#28749583)
Starlink barely works over a few hundred kilometers. Thanks to the inverse square law doing it over a few million kilometers is about 100 million times harder.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by dylan604 on Monday October 04, 2021 @01:21PM (#28749729)
Take things literal too much? Starlink-esque. Like Starlink, but different. Line of site with laser beams. Pew Pew!!!

Also, shocked context clues from the rest of the comment made you feel the whole thing was not tongue-in-cheek.

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by skywal_l on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:16AM (#28744320)
Indeed but there is a great marketing value though. And these missions rely on being marketed to the public for continued funding.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by SiempreViernes on Monday October 04, 2021 @04:21AM (#28744338)
ESA funding isn't really politicised that way since it's a international organisation and no single politician can get their names on things.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by adolph on Monday October 04, 2021 @11:17AM (#28747794)
All Member States contribute to these programmes on a scale based on their Gross National Product (GNP). The other programmes, known as ‘optional’, are only of interest to some Member States, who are free to decide on their level of involvement.

https://www.esa.int/About_Us/Corporate_news/Funding

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by dotancohen on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:40AM (#28745094)
Good thing that Giuseppe Colombo wasn't a politician!
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by bregma on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:05AM (#28745215)
They could probably get more funding if they reduced the amount of science the probes do so they could insert sell and insert advertizing into the data stream.
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by m4rtink on Monday October 04, 2021 @05:09AM (#28744646)
Does the surface of Mercury actually show any perceptible color or is it just basically grayscale like the Moon ?
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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by adrian_b on Monday October 04, 2021 @08:11AM (#28745655)
The most abundant minerals in rocks in the solar system are white oxides, except for the iron(II) and manganese oxides, which are blackish.

So most rocks are gray, unless they have been exposed to oxygen, which converts the black iron oxide into red iron oxide, in which case the rocks turn from some gray shade to some brown shade.

Where there has been water, the water could have been dissociated by light, providing oxygen for the change of color. In the absence of water, there are few chances for anything else that could change the color of the rocks from gray.

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by xioxox on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:25AM (#28745017)
BepiColombo has an X-ray telescope on board which will measure the X-ray colours of the planet from X-ray fluorescence. This will be interesting, as it will enable the composition of the surface to be measured down to 10 km scales [1].

[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11214-020-00750-2

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by ojosilva on Monday October 04, 2021 @05:51AM (#28744855)
It's even greyer than the Moon apparently. Unless this mission finds an active volcano, which I doubt it will, or some other colorful feature hidden from the previous missions, I think that's pretty much it, nothing but shades of grey.

https://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/targetFamily/Mercury

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Re:BepiColombo’s First Views of Mercury by Tepix on Monday October 04, 2021 @05:52AM (#28744862)
It has some subdued colours such as brown and light blue. Here's a previous NASA image:

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110331.html

Here's an image with exaggerated colours:

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110616.html

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