Your argument is ridiculous for two simple reasons:

1. Do understand it is the same group of 5-14 who go on to transition to becoming 15-24 & so after having their life experiences all of which contribute to suicide 2. Low rates among 5-14 might precisely be because they are currently sheltered from the shitstorm that is the world & wider implications of losing that innocence. Mass adoption of social media by that age group might directly accelerate that & atleast may cause a rise in suicide rates. Even a single life lost to such bullshit is devastating.

Please stop advocating for bs like social media that is really never required in our lives much less kids' lives.

[0] Under-13s, the target group for Instagram for Kids, is not at high risk

Genuinely curious : I'd like to know the benefits (not to FB but to society) of Instagram for kids in order to even contemplate the risk benefit analysis. Do you have any sources at hand for this?

Mainly to completely segment off their content (like YT kids) so that while they can have an "Instagram" account, they can't have creepyperson69 sliding into their DMs. It would be similar to what they did with messenger kids.

What content would a kid be consuming on IG? There is no children's content on the platform, as far as I'm aware of.

It's a platform for user-generated content so I'd imagine they would be able to follow their friends and see their pics/videos/reels. That plus kid-approved verified partner content (like @pbskids or @nick).

That plus the idea around tying it to a custodial "parent" account so that a parent can keep tabs on who they are following vastly improves the current situation.

>able to follow their friends and see their pics/videos/reels. That plus kid-approved verified partner content (like @pbskids or @nick)

AnecData alert : We tried Youtube kids in 2019 for about a day (for my then 4 year old son). We were so shocked to see suggestive content and other crazy stuff from "verified" and reputed (100k+ followers) that we uninstalled the app then and there. There's no worse insecurity than a false sense of security

Yeah. Given the experience with regular social media platforms, the very concept of a platform for kid content, where the consumers are kids and creators are random adults from the Internet[0] seems insane.

And yes, I've heard all the stories about YT Kids, and even took a brief look. We're staying away from it. Some research + youtube-dl is our way of choice for sourcing songs for our kid to listen to.

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[0] - What do people expect? That content for YTKids / IGKids will be created by 9-13 years old?

A group not being at high risk is not a good argument that it’s ok to increase their level of risk.

Respected Animats:

Wouldn't it be ideal that our children don't feel suicidal due to the technology and dark patterns that we make available for their young minds (which would take till post-25 in general to actually know what's good for them)?

I suggest that even one suicide - especially in a child - is too high.

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Does your argument boil down to 'just because risk is currently low, it is acceptable to make a change that is known to increase risk'? What if currently risk is low simply due to not making that change. Doesn't make sense.

Or are you saying suicidal ideation cannot be correlated to anything other than age? Which is also untrue since we have evidence social media (and other factors) can increase this risk.

I haven’t checked your stats, but how are they relevant to this discussion, at least in the way you imply?

If one even ignores the insane fact that that many young kids kill themselves every year, in what world is it okay to gleefully ignore an increase in suicides to any age group and the cause(s) of the increase?

It might be the world where you fabricate descriptions like 'gleefully' just to make the person you're disagreeing with look bad.

I didn't fabricate anything. It's simply a bad word choice, and I was really searching for some synonym of deliberately in a reckless way that I can't quite put my finger on.

> Under-13s, the target group for Instagram for Kids, is not at high risk.

Until now it seems

What a ridiculous argument. Are you aware that humans grow older every year?