Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by opk on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:38AM
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I'll be taking particular note of this rescue system on the basis of the identity of the person who has created it. They're someone I've come across more than once in the open source world and definitely have respect for. I'd also recommend mblaze which is the primary tool I use for reading mail.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by morganvachon on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:24PM
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Agreed, Leah is a great person and has been a boon to the Void community. In fact the entire Void team is full of amazing individuals, which is a big reason why it's (in my opinion) the best Linux distro overall.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by smasher164 on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:58AM
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Currently dealing with a zfs cachefile issue on my nas, where hrmpf has been instrumental in letting me backup data and regenerate a cachefile from my macbook.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by mnd999 on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:29AM
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That is really useful. Having to build an archiso every time I accidentally pacman to a kernel version that breaks zfs is annoying. I’ve only done it twice but still.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by boomboomsubban on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:41PM
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Both ZFS updates and pacman breaking are rare enough that I forgot that would happen. Though using this rescue system would work, there's also a group that maintains a script to grab the correct ZFS module for a running archiso, might come in handy for you.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by Arch-TK on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:35AM
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First off... It's a system rescue tool... Have there been any massive advancements in the state of the art of system rescue in the past 8 months that need to be integrated into this tool?
Secondly, since this is void mklive based, whenever you run it, you get the current state of packages. This means that the actual programs are never really going to be out of date at time of building. The project would only need to be updated to update the few boot utilities which are included in the iso, or to update the LTS kernel included.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by spijdar on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:45AM
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To add a little to that second part, I'd say this is really meant to be "built on your own", following that brief example at the end of the README. The releases are more of a convenience thing.
You will need Void's package manager XBPS installed, though. It can be harmlessly installed on other distros and won't (shouldn't?) interfere with the host package manager.
Finally another must have tool: gnuplot and calc. Because often you need to do some graphs and calculations. And maybe bitlbee listening on localhost, with libpurple support.
IM and IRC'ing for support it's unvaluable.
Oh, a quick and dirty ebook reader, with unzip and lynx:
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by grandchild on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:10AM
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In German "hrmpf" is an exclamation and expression of frustration, with a possible connotation of acceptance that something has indeed gone wrong. So it’s a very apt name for a rescue system :)
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by smcl on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:35AM
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Yeah it's a bit of a tongue twister if you have to say this out loud. I'm just continually encountering words I've never heard and either being completely lost or trying to relate them to something I already know. Like in that sentence:
- don't know what a "žbrnd" is
- "zdrhl" is the l-participle of some verb that I don't know
- "hrd" is not something I've seen (is it related to "hrdina" - hero - maybe?)
- "Brd" no idea
- "srn" might be like "srnec" (kind of deer) but if I heard it in a sentence I wouldn't make that connection
- "Krč" - I've seen "Krčma" as a form of pub, but idk if this word refers to that
These guesses I made are possibly miles off the mark :D
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by rob74 on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:14AM
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Ok... and here I was thinking that a single word without vowels in Slovenian (Trst, the Slovenian name of the Italian city Trieste) was remarkable. Guess I have to reconsider that...
... However, speaking as a resident of Czechia, it's worse here.
Consider that quote. The word "čtvrť" means _quarter_, as in Latin Quarter or Arab Quarter. It differs from the word "čtvrt" (meaning a quarter of a pizza, say) by the half a diacritic on the final letter T: ť. That diacritic modifies the following vowel — for example the famous shoe company is not Bata (bar-ta) but Baťa (bar-tya).
In "čtvrť" the háček modifies the following vowel that isn't there and thus changes the meaning of the word.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by GekkePrutser on Monday September 13, 2021 @02:44AM
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Yeah first thing I thought. It also sounds like it overlaps in functionality. I've used GRML for rescue stuff for many years. But this might be interesting too. One thing I'd love to have is to preload since defaults into the image. Like launching an SSH Daemon with a given private key so I can fix a system without a monitor
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux
by slightwinder on Monday September 13, 2021 @06:39AM
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Both are German names, following the same specific sense of naming. And looking around, Hrmpf seems to get inspirations from Grml, maybe even is a clone with different foundation?
https://github.com/leahneukirchen/hrmpf/commit/dcc35b75676f3...
https://github.com/eoli3n/archiso-zfs
Hrmpf has seen no release for the past 8 months https://github.com/leahneukirchen/hrmpf/releases where SystemRescue is updated regularly https://www.system-rescue.org/Changes-x86/ .
Secondly, since this is void mklive based, whenever you run it, you get the current state of packages. This means that the actual programs are never really going to be out of date at time of building. The project would only need to be updated to update the few boot utilities which are included in the iso, or to update the LTS kernel included.
You will need Void's package manager XBPS installed, though. It can be harmlessly installed on other distros and won't (shouldn't?) interfere with the host package manager.
That's nice. Good to know.
Also, a cgames package for Void would be nice, csokoban it's perfect to play on slow recovering.
I'll add ffmpeg, sox and visidata too as they are the perfect suite for media and office suite files. MPV and Mplayer work on the framebuffer, too.
Optional dependencies for visidata: https://www.visidata.org/docs/formats/
Finally another must have tool: gnuplot and calc. Because often you need to do some graphs and calculations. And maybe bitlbee listening on localhost, with libpurple support. IM and IRC'ing for support it's unvaluable.
Oh, a quick and dirty ebook reader, with unzip and lynx:
edit: wonder if we have any Welsh speakers here actually
7 years of study and this language still terrifies me.
- don't know what a "žbrnd" is
- "zdrhl" is the l-participle of some verb that I don't know
- "hrd" is not something I've seen (is it related to "hrdina" - hero - maybe?)
- "Brd" no idea
- "srn" might be like "srnec" (kind of deer) but if I heard it in a sentence I wouldn't make that connection
- "Krč" - I've seen "Krčma" as a form of pub, but idk if this word refers to that
These guesses I made are possibly miles off the mark :D
There's a breakdown here on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/1l3tdw/new_longest_c...
Brd, Smrk and Krč are places. "Zdrhl": escaped; "hrd": proudly; "srn" is a doe, a female deer.
Nobody seems to know "žbrnd", but this is admittedly purposely difficult language, showing off how much is possible without vowels.
Anyway it's good to know I'm not the only one struggling through. Keep it up!
https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~beatrice/humor/clinton-deploys-v...
... However, speaking as a resident of Czechia, it's worse here.
Consider that quote. The word "čtvrť" means _quarter_, as in Latin Quarter or Arab Quarter. It differs from the word "čtvrt" (meaning a quarter of a pizza, say) by the half a diacritic on the final letter T: ť. That diacritic modifies the following vowel — for example the famous shoe company is not Bata (bar-ta) but Baťa (bar-tya).
In "čtvrť" the háček modifies the following vowel that isn't there and thus changes the meaning of the word.
Czech is czallenging.
I do use ZFS heavily though, so that would definitely be a point for me. I see Hrmpf does have it so I'll check it out.