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Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by mlang23 on Monday September 13, 2021 @02:16AM (#28508324)
Project name looks like it was inspired by Grml :-)
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by grandchild on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:10AM (#28508643)
In German "hrmpf" is an exclamation and expression of frustration, with a possible connotation of acceptance that something has indeed gone wrong. So it’s a very apt name for a rescue system :)
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by eloeffler on Monday September 13, 2021 @03:34AM (#28508797)
The percentage of consonants in this word induces serious amounts of Angstschweiß :)
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by smcl on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:05AM (#28508951)
[laughs in Czech] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Str%C4%8D_prst_skrz_krk

edit: wonder if we have any Welsh speakers here actually

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by lproven on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:04AM (#28510978)
"Blb vlk pln žbrnd zdrhl hrd z mlh Brd skrz vrch Smrk v čtvrť srn Krč."

7 years of study and this language still terrifies me.

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by smcl on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:35AM (#28511274)
Yeah it's a bit of a tongue twister if you have to say this out loud. I'm just continually encountering words I've never heard and either being completely lost or trying to relate them to something I already know. Like in that sentence:

- don't know what a "žbrnd" is

- "zdrhl" is the l-participle of some verb that I don't know

- "hrd" is not something I've seen (is it related to "hrdina" - hero - maybe?)

- "Brd" no idea

- "srn" might be like "srnec" (kind of deer) but if I heard it in a sentence I wouldn't make that connection

- "Krč" - I've seen "Krčma" as a form of pub, but idk if this word refers to that

These guesses I made are possibly miles off the mark :D

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by lproven on Monday September 13, 2021 @10:23AM (#28511874)
You're good! Better than me, but then I started old. 46 is a hell of an age to tackle your first Slavic language.

There's a breakdown here on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/czech/comments/1l3tdw/new_longest_c...

Brd, Smrk and Krč are places. "Zdrhl": escaped; "hrd": proudly; "srn" is a doe, a female deer.

Nobody seems to know "žbrnd", but this is admittedly purposely difficult language, showing off how much is possible without vowels.

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by smcl on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:33PM (#28513521)
Ha nice - so I got one (almost) right :D

Anyway it's good to know I'm not the only one struggling through. Keep it up!

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by rob74 on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:14AM (#28511061)
Ok... and here I was thinking that a single word without vowels in Slovenian (Trst, the Slovenian name of the Italian city Trieste) was remarkable. Guess I have to reconsider that...
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by lproven on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:20AM (#28511117)
Yugoslavia was famed for its critical vowel shortage:

https://www.ling.upenn.edu/~beatrice/humor/clinton-deploys-v...

... However, speaking as a resident of Czechia, it's worse here.

Consider that quote. The word "čtvrť" means _quarter_, as in Latin Quarter or Arab Quarter. It differs from the word "čtvrt" (meaning a quarter of a pizza, say) by the half a diacritic on the final letter T: ť. That diacritic modifies the following vowel — for example the famous shoe company is not Bata (bar-ta) but Baťa (bar-tya).

In "čtvrť" the háček modifies the following vowel that isn't there and thus changes the meaning of the word.

Czech is czallenging.

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by smcl on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:45AM (#28511400)
Bonus complication while we're talking Czech orthography - "ch" is considered to be one letter. Have been stumped on some křižovky because of that.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by mlang23 on Monday September 13, 2021 @12:45PM (#28513657)
Its time to do crowdfunding and gift them a few vowels.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by kleiba on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:09AM (#28508970)
That's because it's not an actual word, it's more like a cartoonish onomatopoeia.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by GekkePrutser on Monday September 13, 2021 @02:44AM (#28508492)
Yeah first thing I thought. It also sounds like it overlaps in functionality. I've used GRML for rescue stuff for many years. But this might be interesting too. One thing I'd love to have is to preload since defaults into the image. Like launching an SSH Daemon with a given private key so I can fix a system without a monitor
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by fho on Monday September 13, 2021 @04:59AM (#28509191)
Iirc there was a time where grml just was not up to date anymore? I somewhat remember that it did not support btrfs at some point.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by GekkePrutser on Monday September 13, 2021 @05:03AM (#28509208)
Could be, I never used btrfs.

I do use ZFS heavily though, so that would definitely be a point for me. I see Hrmpf does have it so I'll check it out.

Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by teddyh on Monday September 13, 2021 @09:50AM (#28511468)
Grml had a bit of a gap between the december 2018 release and the june 2020 release.
Re:Hrmpf rescue system, built on Void Linux by slightwinder on Monday September 13, 2021 @06:39AM (#28509772)
Both are German names, following the same specific sense of naming. And looking around, Hrmpf seems to get inspirations from Grml, maybe even is a clone with different foundation?