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Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by Stratoscope on Saturday September 11, 2021 @09:02PM (#28497628)
And in fact that informs how to pronounce the word. It's not hah-buh-NYAIR-oh, it's hah-buh-NAIR-oh.

A similar one that I used to get wrong all the time is empanada. No ñ in that either, but I always said em-puh-NYAH-duh. Then one day I noticed it was just a regular n and it is pronouced em-puh-NAH-duh.

Now for a really embarrassing one. This was back in the day when I was working with my friend and colleague Alan Cooper (of interaction design fame) on what became Visual Basic. We were on a phone call and I said something about a zhuh-NAIR of music. Alan asked "what's that?" I explained that it was like a category or a particular style. He said "do you mean ZHAHN-ruh?"

It's funny how these embarrassing moments stick in your brain. I could tell you exactly where I was, and even which direction I was facing when we had that conversation.

But I was grateful that Alan corrected me and I won't sound like a fool any more when I talk about a genre.

I had one friend who would never gracefully accept a correction like that. One time he told me about a neighbor who "took his dog to the pond." I said "that's nice, does the dog like to go swimming?" He said "no, the POND, the place where they put dogs to sleep."

He went through his whole life mispronouncing "dog pound", and many, many other words.

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by stavros on Saturday September 11, 2021 @09:04PM (#28497644)
A Chinese colleague of mine liked to say that "there are many ways to peel a cat".
Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by Stratoscope on Saturday September 11, 2021 @09:07PM (#28497671)
Ouch. As someone who lives with three dogs and three cats, that one hits close to home.

One of our cats thinks she is my girlfriend! When I go to bed, she immediately jumps on the bed next to me and places herself right where my hand is, so I can scratch her back and tummy.

No cat peeling here!

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by pathseeker on Sunday September 12, 2021 @03:31AM (#28499278)
I love these idiom screw-ups. One of my coworkers once tried to use an English idiom and it came out, "let's not beat a horse to death."
Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by usui on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:04AM (#28499617)
The worst offenders are ones that can be solved logically if the person spent 5 seconds to think.

"I could care less" vs "I could not care less"

The amount of people who defend the former with their own head-canon is frightening. Ones I have heard are "It's sarcastic" and "I care so little that I won't put the extra effort into caring less"

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by Stratoscope on Sunday September 12, 2021 @06:18AM (#28499909)
Steven Pinker and other linguists would like a word with you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=steven+pinker+i+could+care+l...

From Pinker's book The Language Instinct (p.377 or 389 depending on the edition):

> A tin ear for prosody (stress and intonation) and an obliviousness to the principles of discourse and rhetoric are important tools for the language maven. Consider an alleged atrocity committed by today's youth: the expression I could care less. The teenagers are trying to express disdain, the adults note, in which case they should be saying I couldn't care less. If they could care less than they do, that means that they really do care, the opposite of what they are trying to say. But if these dudes would stop ragging on teenagers and scope out the construction, they would see that their argument is bogus. Listen to how the two versions are pronounced:

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     COULDN'T care
                    LE
                      ESS.
  i
  
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  I
            CARE
                  LE
                    ESS.
     could
  
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> The melodies and stresses are completely different, and for a good reason. The second version is not illogical, it's sarcastic. The point of sarcasm is that by making an assertion that is manifestly false or accompanied by ostentatiously mannered intonation, one deliberately implies its opposite. A good paraphrase is, “Oh yeah, as if there was something in the world that I care less about.”

But I hear you and sympathize with your point of view. I have been there myself. It didn't make sense to me that people would use a word or phrase in any meaning other than its literal one.

Especially a word like "literally", right?

Merriam-Webster has a article on that. It's literally the best article ever written!

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/misuse-of-lite...

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by a_e_k on Sunday September 12, 2021 @04:43AM (#28499527)
I discovered just this evening that the approach I try to use to correct my kids on that sort of thing was described by Marcus Aurelius:

> From Alexander the grammarian: to avoid fault-finding and not to censure in a carping spirit any who employ an exotic phrase, a solecism, or harsh expression, but oneself to use, neatly and precisely, the correct phrase, by way of answer or confirmation or handling of the actual question—the thing, not its verbal expression—or by some other equally happy reminder.

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Meditations_of_the_Empero...

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by pezezin on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:57AM (#28499830)
I will never be able to understand English phonetic approximations. Spanish is my mother language and I don't know how they are supposed to sound like xD

In any case, "empañada" is a real word, it mean's "foggy", but used for glasses, not for the weather itself. For example, "tengo las gafas empañadas" -> "my glasses are foggy"

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by Stratoscope on Sunday September 12, 2021 @05:12AM (#28499664)
I just remembered a couple more of my late friend's interesting pronunciations:

"Old-timer's disease" (Alzheimer's)

"Valentime's Day"

Too late to correct him now! May he rest in peace.

Re:Social Networks: It's worse than you think (2020) by b3morales on Sunday September 12, 2021 @01:46PM (#28503197)
Old-timer's/Alzheimer's probably qualifies as an Eggcorn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggcorn

(In fact I see that it is mentioned at the beginning of that article!)