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Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by conradfr on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @07:22AM (#28366450)
You know a connected TV / set-top box is on a channel but you don't know how many / which persons in the house is in front of it.
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by yissp on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @07:31AM (#28366524)
How long until they start putting cameras in them and doing facial recognition?
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by justanotherguy0 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:01AM (#28366802)
Just use the microphone in the smart tv. That's what the CIA does: https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.wa...
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by MiddleEndian on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:01AM (#28367495)
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by KallDrexx on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:07AM (#28367575)
So I found out my neighbors were proud to be participating in some new Neilson study. Apparently they pay you to wear these boxes in your pocket that pick up sound. At the end of the day it syncs what it heard to their servers and you get points, which eventually translates to money.

Essentially the stated purpose is so that it can pick up what music you listen to throughout the day, but in reality it's picking up everything.

Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by touristtam on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:42AM (#28367944)
Oh so like a cell/mobile phone, but only with the purpose stated out right?
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by vel0city on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @01:55PM (#28371261)
Nah, they get paid to have the box in their pocket, you pay to have your box in your pocket.
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by cm2187 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:21AM (#28366992)
Some sort of localised motion sensor would probably be sufficient to tell you how many people are watching without invading too much on people's privacy. You wouldn't know the age, but you already have ton of information by knowing the address and the subscriber already.
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by hnlmorg on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:08AM (#28367582)
> Some sort of localised motion sensor would probably be sufficient to tell you how many people are watching

You'd also have pets captured, curtains flapping by an open window captured, and any toys kids are playing with (like balls) potentially captured as another viewer too.

Meanwhile pap who likes to sit motionlessly while the kids round around him, isn't detected.

> without invading too much on people's privacy

Motion detection feels like a pretty major privacy violation to me.

> You wouldn't know the age, but you already have ton of information by knowing the address and the subscriber already.

Except when you have friends or family over.

Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by ta988 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:12AM (#28367621)
Cameras are here and we have no idea what they do with them.
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by gruez on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @07:41AM (#28366609)
Put tape over it?
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by jobigoud on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:08AM (#28366857)
They could put an IR camera right next to the remote sensor. Since it's behind a glass that is opaque to visible-light you wouldn't even know the camera's there, and if you put tape on it your remote wouldn't work anymore.
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by type0 on Wednesday September 01, 2021 @06:55AM (#28378280)
Thank you for giving such great ideas for free to CIA, I just can't help to wait until it's implemented in my next smart tv /s
Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by gruez on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @08:13AM (#28366912)
>Since it's behind a glass that is opaque to visible-light you wouldn't even know the camera's there

If it's opaque to visible light how does the camera produce an image?

>if you put tape on it your remote wouldn't work anymore.

Not really? You just have to be more careful placing the tape. Besides, nowadays many smart TV have app remote controls, or RF-based remote controls so the IR sensor being blocked is a non-issue

Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by bluGill on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:06AM (#28367562)
> If it's opaque to visible light how does the camera produce an image?

It isn't opaque to infrared light though. The image is still high enough quality to make out people, it looks funny but it is good enough for their purposes.

Re:Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics by ta988 on Tuesday August 31, 2021 @09:12AM (#28367619)
Most "smart" TVs have cameras these days...