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Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by frankbreetz on Friday August 27, 2021 @08:49AM (#28327133)
I think the Corona beer sales increased because of the virus because they leaned into it. Personally, I know many people bought it as joke.

Maybe Delta should take a lesson, I think very few people are deterred from flying because the new virus has the same name as your airline.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by masto on Friday August 27, 2021 @08:57AM (#28327212)
I think they are actually trying to be slightly funny about this, maybe it’s not coming across because corporate. But read some of their statements again in a different intonation. I mean, “We prefer to call it the B. 1.617.2 variant since that is so much more simple to say and remember” can’t be taken literally.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by beckman466 on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:05AM (#28327300)
> I think they are actually trying to be slightly funny about this, maybe it’s not coming across because corporate.

Yes definitely this. Another one:

"CEO Ed Bastian told the Wall Street Journal "we just call it the variant.""

In that light these articles are media-produced faux-outrage. ugh

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by outside1234 on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:08AM (#28328823)
Its free PR for them - probably exactly what they intended.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by smoyer on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:14AM (#28327400)
Incoming trademark infringement lawsuit from the makers of Loki.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by zibzab on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:07AM (#28327327)
Whoever is in charge of Corona public relations should be promptly fired for not doing a better job here.

For example, they could have included one cheap mask (with their logo with their 6-packs so "you only get the good corona"...

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by pc86 on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:11AM (#28328020)
At which point they are promptly lambasted for making light of a global pandemic with a 7-figure body count.

You can lean into it but only so far.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by elzbardico on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:03AM (#28328763)
Hate to be callous, but as global pandemics goes, a 7 figure body count over almost two years and over the whole world is not that bad.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by jjk166 on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:23AM (#28329015)
It's the 6th highest body count of any pandemic in history after The Black Death, Spanish Flu, AIDS/HIV, The Plague of Justinian, and the Antonine Plague, and it's on track to beat the Antonine Plague.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by elzbardico on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:41AM (#28329234)
This is highly misleading as you are ignoring the number of deaths compared to the population.

The Antonine plague killed 2,6% of the world population. Covid, so far? 0.04%. It is not even close to beat the Antonine plague.

Just for perspective: The upper estimate for covid deaths in 2020 was 3M. The average estimate for yearly tobacco deaths is around 7.5 M. Every FUCKING YEAR, almost 3 covid pandemics caused by cigarretes.

Not to mention that the averaged covid death age is very close to the average life expectation, that is, a majority of people who died of it would probably die in one year or two.

Does it means is not a serious disease? No. it doesn't. Does it means it is a hoax? hell, no!

But does it means that there's an unwarranted level of panic? You sure bet.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by jjk166 on Friday August 27, 2021 @12:47PM (#28330037)
You said 7 figure body counts in 2 years weren't bad by global pandemic standards.

7 figure body counts in 2 years put you in the top ten deadliest natural disasters in human history.

No one was talking about fraction of the population, nor was anyone talking about effective reduction of life expectancy. You specifically were using the metric body count.

If you want to make an argument that this pandemic isn't that bad because the people who died this time don't count for as much as those who died in other pandemics, you can do so, but I think that's a poor strategy for corporate PR.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by elzbardico on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:24PM (#28335055)
You can’t compare absolute numbers. Why do you insist on that? Do you think world population was always the same? Really?
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by jjk166 on Sunday August 29, 2021 @02:29PM (#28349220)
If the question is a matter of absolute numbers, which for body count it is, then yes I can.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by pc86 on Friday August 27, 2021 @12:36PM (#28329867)
I agree with your points but I also think it's an important distinction that people choose to smoke cigarettes. I don't think folks without mental health issues are intentionally getting COVID.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by dec0dedab0de on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:51AM (#28328577)
I was thinking the same thing in the beginning. "Stay home, have a Corona Corona." Maybe team up with drizzly or another delivery service, and all the chain restaurants that were suddenly allowed to have takeout drinks.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by zibzab on Saturday August 28, 2021 @06:52AM (#28337091)
Yeah, there are ways to trun this into something useful and at the same time help people.

Not at all making light of the pandemic, but I think this was a missed "opportunity" for those guys.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by alttab on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:46AM (#28328504)
"Travel like Delta" would be subtle enough I think.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by MrGilbert on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:51AM (#28328582)
That's… hilarious.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Friday August 27, 2021 @08:55AM (#28327194)
There is an argument for both approaches. I do remember Isis company changing name, because 1) ISIS became a household name 2) it was placed by OFAC on their lists. All of a sudden, doing basic transactions in US became difficult. Needless to say, name change had more of an impact on more than just branding here.

I agree that in this case, they should play it light.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by jsight on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:39AM (#28328389)
Yeah, that situation was worse. American Express had a partnership called ISIS and issued cards under their "Serve" brand. They literally said "serve isis" on the front. That name had to change.

I don't think the stigma here is nearly so tangible.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by somehnacct3757 on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:35AM (#28328321)
The Archer tv show used to call its main spy org ISIS. And then one day, they just stopped referring to it by name at all. Gave it the silent treatment.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by bigmattystyles on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:42AM (#28328434)
I thought it was in the plot that they went independent or something along those lines. I guess time for a rewatch before the new season.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by roland35 on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:07AM (#28328809)
The website we used to register for classes at University of Florida was also ISIS (Integrated Student information services or something like that). They have since rebranded it as well
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by lvncelot on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:13AM (#28328899)
Interesting, at the Technical University of Berlin it's also called ISIS for Information System for Instructors and Students - they haven't changed the name though.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by BoxOfRain on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:01AM (#28328731)
In Oxford there's a lot of places called Isis because that's the name of the stretch of the Thames which flows through the city. Fortunately most businesses weren't willing to cede the name to the militant group so cheaply!
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by gorkish on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:01AM (#28328733)
Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_and_Scanner_Interface_Sp...

When something goes awry with our capture stack, sometimes my google searches start to look a little sus.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by ghaff on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:44AM (#28328478)
Furthermore, pretty much no one is now going to turn up your company name in a search--at least unless maybe you pay enough to turn up in paid search.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by geodel on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:39AM (#28328399)
LOL. I remember that. Also there was this happened in India: Zica Car vs Zika virus.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by helsinkiandrew on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:41AM (#28328418)
In a few months/years we'll be on to epsilon and nobody will care - I wonder if the Kappa and Omega brands are getting worried?
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by Denvercoder9 on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:09AM (#28328841)
> In a few months/years we'll be on to epsilon

There already was an Epsilon variant, it has been more or less eradicated by the rise of the Alpha variant.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by DocKitKat on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:00AM (#28327252)
They are leaning into it. Did people not read the article? They’re handling it slightly differently but it’s all a joke, that makes very much reminds you that their is a simpler and more common name.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by OJFord on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:22AM (#28327476)
The article does not read to me at all like its author realises they're joking.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by elicash on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:02AM (#28327264)
People are more concerned about COVID when flying than they are buying beer, possibly. Certainly a beer commercial can have a different tone than what you find at airports in these times. I'm not sure they should lean into it.

That said, NYT did a fantastic job visualizing how air circulates on planes and it made me feel safer about flying:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/04/17/travel/flying...

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by bluefirebrand on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:34AM (#28328314)
I still don't feel safe with flying. Literally every time I get on a plane I get sick, you cannot convince me they are safe against the spread of Covid. There's more to that than just air circulation.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by jliptzin on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:35AM (#28329178)
I agree, I really don’t understand how air circulation helps when you’re in a middle seat and the two people beside you have their masks off to eat peanuts and are coughing every 2 min
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by account42 on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:24AM (#28327498)
> That said, NYT did a fantastic job visualizing how air circulates on planes and it made me feel safer about flying:

I think this would have worked much better as a video - both from a usability and from a data compression perspective.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by koolba on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:03AM (#28327281)
It was even better back when they allowed smoking.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by koolba on Friday August 27, 2021 @11:54AM (#28329390)
I’m referring to the overall air quality which was better back when you could smoke because the airlines were forced to change the air more aggressively. You can’t hide smoke as easily as invisible stagnant air.

https://www.traveller.com.au/reader-letters-visiting-parliam...

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by goohle on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:11AM (#28327369)
It's viral marketing.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by verbify on Friday August 27, 2021 @08:59AM (#28327236)
Anecdotally I recall the beer aisles being relatively empty during the so-called panic buying, except for corona which were untouched.

Companies spend a lot of money to associate their brand with a good feeling, I can't imagine that the people who bought it as a joke outweighed the negative association.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by hellbannedguy on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:53AM (#28328610)
I think they are using this as a publicity stunt.

I haven't thought, or cared about Delta Airlines, forever.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by andix on Friday August 27, 2021 @10:09AM (#28327993)
I bought it as a joke in February 2020, after that it was sold out constantly :D
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by gremlinsinc on Friday August 27, 2021 @05:25PM (#28333131)
Corona Beer: hold my ...um... beer.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by mirthflat83 on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:04AM (#28327291)
> Maybe Delta should take a lesson

You’re probably the one who should take an English lesson to realize they’re joking

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by beamatronic on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:28AM (#28327551)
They could lean into it, but perhaps it could be seen as disrespectful to the dead and those suffering. “Don’t catch Delta! Catch a Delta flight instead!”

I would temporarily abandon the word by itself and instead use the phrases “Delta Airlines” and “Delta virus variant”. Clarity at the risk of wordiness.

Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by kristiandupont on Friday August 27, 2021 @08:58AM (#28327227)
On the other hand, I've seen lots of tweets about Corona being the only thing left after hoarding (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETjFKGFWkAAIO2L?format=jpg&name=...). But maybe they turned it around
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by Tenoke on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:05AM (#28327295)
Eyeballing the share prices of the parent company, Corona's BUD is doing worse than e.g. Coors' TAP since the start of the pandemic. I don't know enough about the companies to know if that means much but at least that preliminary check suggests Corona might've suffered.
Re:Delta Air Lines doesn’t want to call delta variant the ‘d... by chmod775 on Friday August 27, 2021 @09:09AM (#28327345)
The most charitable explanation I could come up with is: Maybe people just don't want to be reminded of the pandemic when opening their fridge.