Joe Rogan doesn't even have a political faction beyond that of his latest guest really.

I don't think it's about politics, Joe Rogan is just very low SNR unless you're tuning in to a particular guest.

He doesn't identify with the Republican party, but he is a "disaffected democrat" - a group that increasingly has seen the democratic party leave them, rather than them leaving the party.

Joe may be considered right-wing by the "new democrats", who are the most vocal portions of the democratic party (the "woke" folks, even if they aren't the majority of the party currently, but they are becoming the future of the party) - this is despite Joe's views not changing much from where they were a couple decades ago. It's the party that's shifted.

It's like comedian Tim Dillon said, "I woke up one day and was asked if we should still have police and borders, and I said yes we should. Now I'm apparently a nazi." He is a comedian and this is somewhat tongue and cheek but reflects the disaffected nature and cynicism many of these folks now have for the democratic party.

This is what happens when social media algorithms controlling the entire world, let alone the USA are developed on the belief system of a small neighborhood in Silicon Valley.

https://www.economist.com/international/2021/06/12/social-me...

Joe Rogan does not identify with the Republican party, I believe he voted Democrat in the last election.

>I can’t vote for that guy. I’d rather vote for Trump than [Biden]. I don’t think he can handle anything. You’re relying entirely on his cabinet. If you want to talk about an individual leader who can communicate, he can’t do that. And we don’t know what the f— he’ll be like after a year in office.’

Joe Rogan repeating outright lies about Biden being senile and incapable of communication in order to justify voting for a man he himself has called dangerous and a moron. What do you call a person who proclaims he's voting for a dangerous moron?

Is that quote really your smoking gun evidence that Rogan is Republican or Republican-supporting? Try and replace the names with people who don't have a political charge attached, and try to honestly assess whether it's such an outrageous thing to say.

He didn't say he would vote Trump and there's no evidence that he did. He was simply commenting that Biden was in decline, which was and is increasingly there for everyone to observe, and is highly concerning for a person who holds the most powerful office in the world.

You can disagree that his cognitive impairment disqualifies him from being president, fine, but to make that kind of comment is just not deserving of the outrage, and clearly the media whipped it up and perpetuated it in order to keep us all clicking and arguing.

Would you please stop creating accounts like this? You've created well over a hundred of them—that's egregious and abusive. We ban such accounts. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

What's the point of having an account if you'll just ban it for criticizing HN holy cows likd nuclear energy.

We don't "ban accounts just for criticizing HN", as anyone who spends a few minutes can easily see for themselves.

please dont feed the trolls

Good catch correcting me that 47% is not half.

Are you saying that the votes of uneducated people should be worth less than those of college educated people?

I'm saying that objectively people who are privileged by existing broken systems and people who are uneducated both make bad choices.

If we made college free I would absolutely be OK with making completing a degree a prerequisite to being allowed to vote along with an IQ test every 10 years excluding people under 90 and a pop quiz on current events where people who couldn't answer such questions as who their senators are would see their vote go straight in the trash.

Excluding people who are lazy, stupid, or ignorant would result in a better decision making process. None of this is politically possible.

Are you familiar with the ugly history of literacy tests being used to disenfranchise Black voters? Let's not repeat that kind of discrimination.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/democracy-exhibition/vote-voi...

Strip just under 50% of the country of voting rights to combat creeping authoritarianism? At least you’re shameless I guess.

Do you actually think 50% of the population couldn't get a college degree even if it was free or do you think half both desire to vote but couldn't be bothered to attend to such trivial details as who their senators are?

Only about 15% have an IQ less than 90. 85% could absolutely get a degree and pay minimal attention. Will they all? No and if only 50% of the population bothers that would in that case be on them. They would in that scenario be throwing away their own rights by declining to participate. Spending A 4 year cycle reading your facebook feed and voting for the guy you saw in between the beer commercial and the game last night isn't participation.

> people who couldn't answer such questions as who their senators are would see their vote go straight in the trash

Your proposal would send to the trash the votes of 90% of black people. How progressive...

> Only 16 percent of Latinos and 10 percent of African-Americans were able to correctly identify one senator from his or her home state

> 77 percent of Americans between 18 and 34 could not name one senator in his or her home state

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/poll-millennials-stat...

Maybe we should just remove voting altogether and just have 20 PhDs from Harvard/Standford/Yale and MIT decide who should run the country to avoid the unwashed masses decide such an important aspect of our life.

How can people who don't even know who they are voting for until they go in a booth and see whose name has an R or a D by it possibly pick good leaders?

If in a century people are living in the carcass of civilization will we celebrate that we achieved our ruin progressively or inclusively?

Let's be real though people aren't worried about being progressive they are more apt to worried because they support a political party that could never survive without the ignorant and the stupid.

If only people with college degrees who actually made a minimal effort to follow non Facebook meme politics could vote the republicans would only be competitive vs the green party.

If only people with college degrees who actually made a minimal effort to follow non Facebook meme politics could vote, both the democrats and republicans would be different parties. The parties and their message to voters are influenced by who is voting in the first place.

Additionally, which party do you associate with calls to lower the voting age? I do not associate Republicans with this. How does this fit with your belief that allowing "only people with college degrees" would overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. Why isn't the Republican party demanding we lower the voting age to 16? Granted, neither party directly asks for this, but you can find little organizations here[1] and there[2] asking for it, and maybe the occasional individual House member[3].

1: https://www.fairvote.org/lower_the_voting_age

2: https://www.youthrights.org/blog/young-democrats-of-america-...

3: https://meng.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/meng-rein...

lmao this guy wants to bring back literacy tests

Literacy tests were biased in the post civil war era not only because black folks were at a substantially disadvantaged insofar as becoming literate in that era but because veterans of the civil war and their progeny were exempt as were other fellows of "good character".

That is to say it was used as an excuse to prevent black folks from voting whilst many white illiterates were welcomed into the voting booth.

My only critique is that by labelling everyone a Nazi we are washing out the Nazi label, thus enabling future establishment of the actual Nazis, because everyone will think that those future Nazis are no worse than Joe Rogans of today.