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Re:Economic costs of war by Grakel on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:27PM (#28204140)
Absolutely not. Waste fuels the economy. There's no shortage of metal, only the price of metal.

As for people, spending a couple of years in the military is much better personal development for many young people than going to college at an age when most people can't appreciate it.

These things aside, of course the loss of life is horrific and a terrible waste.

Re:Economic costs of war by Apocryphon on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:31PM (#28204188)
1 in 5 veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are diagnosed with PTSD. And veterans account for 20 percent of U.S. suicides.

https://facethefactsusa.org/facts/the-true-price-of-war-in-h...

Re:Economic costs of war by kortex on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:31PM (#28204191)
On the other hand, college was tough, but didn't kill/maim/disfigure/traumatize me.
Re:Economic costs of war by yunohn on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:34PM (#28204210)
> There's no shortage of metal, only the price of metal

Metal is a non-renewable resource. Cost of extraction does not match market price, more so when unnecessary demand is created for wars. What kind of spin is this?

Re:Economic costs of war by m4rtink on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:52PM (#28204393)
I don't think you can call material sources renewable, well unless we talk wood, leather or whale fat I guess.

But in general metals can be recycled quite well and often are recycled due to their price. Also even if you finely shredded it and mixed it with other stuff the resulting mix would still most likely have higher grade than regular ore & mining it would thus be economicaly viable.

Re:Economic costs of war by yunohn on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @02:19AM (#28206754)
I’m not sure why you imagine that wartime wreckage and artillery is often recycled?
Re:Economic costs of war by Grakel on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:44PM (#28204314)
There's probably more metal in the solar system than the volume of Earth.
Re:Economic costs of war by kortex on Monday August 16, 2021 @08:11PM (#28204556)
Ah yes, technical truth, the best kind of truth.

There could be asteroids of pure palladium, platinum, gold, and silver, and it wouldn't matter a fig until it was cost competitive with digging rocks out of the ground, sticking them on a slow barge to a massive refinery and processing them with cheap, probably exploitative, labor.

Re:Economic costs of war by yunohn on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:50PM (#28204376)
I guess this kind of retort would help you in a pub quiz.
Re:Economic costs of war by Grakel on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:59PM (#28204458)
There's no shortage of metal, that's the point. Open your mind.
Re:Economic costs of war by stevenhuang on Monday August 16, 2021 @08:50PM (#28204821)
There is an effective shortage of resources since the capacity to mine for them is not infinite, and production cannot meet demands.
Re:Economic costs of war by AnimalMuppet on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:57PM (#28205681)
And the metal in space doesn't help us with our current technology. Obviously.

"We can't have a metal shortage because there's lots of metal in space" is not the most coherent argument I've heard today...

Re:Economic costs of war by Grakel on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @08:56AM (#28209324)
What I originally said was there's no metal shortage, only the price of metal. We'll be mining the solar system long before we run out of metal on earth. For aluminum, for instance, there's an insane amount in the Earth's crust.
Re:Economic costs of war by stevenhuang on Tuesday August 17, 2021 @07:59PM (#28216192)
Supply and demand informs price. Not the other way around. That's why your argument makes no sense.
Re:Economic costs of war by guskel on Monday August 16, 2021 @10:11PM (#28205329)
What you're positing here is basically the "Broken Window" fallacy.
Re:Economic costs of war by Sharlin on Monday August 16, 2021 @07:32PM (#28204194)
> Waste fuels the economy.

Yeah, and see what mess that sort of thinking has got us into. Economic growth is worthless if it’s not sustainable.